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T4的用地裡頭用承租的方式或是專案讓售的方式讓我們的TTA有一個長治久安進駐的地點而目前的結論下一頁"},{"start":355.658,"end":369.989,"text":"似乎是願意臺北市願意再跟廠商在租新的土地的地上全的標案內容裡頭保留一層需求是你們提的大概1400坪然後每坪大概1300元這條件應當是你們談過的但是進度到底怎麼樣"},{"start":374.432,"end":399.767,"text":"如果這個事情是這麼的方向明確那為什麼蔣萬安市長在要求跨黨派的立委協助臺北的周洋地方合作的時候就獨露這一下我要說蔣萬安市長你是新創市長就搞真的不要把這件事情一直擱在那裡這不是吳思瑤的credit這是臺灣科技發展的需要這是臺北市產業進步的需要好就這個案子你們的立場跟進度"},{"start":402.516,"end":420.062,"text":"謝謝吳委員的關心事實上TTA在臺北小巨蛋已經短期在成都7年那的確也不是一個長久之計那如果臺北市有適合的地方這個我去看了一下應該是蠻好的一個地點"},{"start":421.362,"end":429.766,"text":"好 我們現在還有7年的時間可以來繼續下一個中長期的計劃因為現在你們又在繼續續租小巨蛋還被台北市起這個租金每坪增加83塊降我們租金好 我們勉為其難繼續租用但未來長城的合作落腳在北市科大家都搞了這麼久看了這麼久我會再次督促蔣萬安市長新創市長就完真的不要打假球"},{"start":450.035,"end":453.556,"text":"國科會準備好了嗎?我們加強跟他們洽談,好嗎?這個應該是對台北市會議也是一個plus。我們不管台北市怎麼樣的delay,我們不會放棄。私咬不會放棄。I am watching you all, ok?加油,謝謝,謝謝主席給我時間,謝謝。"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:31:11.009000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:31:11.089000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳主任委員政忠","start":"2024-03-14T11:31:38.858000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:31:39.738000+08:00","text":"吳委員早。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:31:39.738000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:31:47.600000+08:00","text":"非常開心可以回來教文委員會看看大家，思瑤姐姐會無所不在，大家沒有辦法逃離我的watch。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳主任委員政忠","start":"2024-03-14T11:31:48.061000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:31:48.561000+08:00","text":"瞭解、瞭解。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:31:50.181000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:32:00.164000+08:00","text":"今天因為我只有4分鐘，我會努力，兩個主題就是我長期在監督的文化科技跨域合作及TTA進駐北士科。","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:32:02.514000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:32:52.497000+08:00","text":"在本席不斷地倡議之下，也謝謝主委、謝謝政委，科技顧問制度、科技顧問會議在去年12月重行召開了，那個時候我們都忙於選舉，但是我也有持續follow，我確實看到8位國內外的科技專家共同進入3天深度的討論，為我們未來臺灣的科技發展定錨、定方向，在半導體跟AI的部分作出了三個策略結論：第一個是加強培育人才；第二個加速應用技術發展；第三個要以生成式AI plus晶片來驅動全產業創新，而且要強化新創孵育；樣樣項項都非常的正確，而且有遠見。","quality":0.948},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:32:53.657000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:33:16.835000+08:00","text":"在淨零科技的面向一樣有三個策略：第一，針對臺灣特性來訂定臺灣具發展潛力的淨零科技，而且以2030為目標，非常明確；第二，利用臺灣淨零轉型機會培養在地綠色供應鏈，這也非常的重要；最後一個，把握AI轉型契機，加速產業淨零與數位雙轉型。","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:33:17.155000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:33:27.863000+08:00","text":"對於這樣的科技顧問會議能夠重新上路，您覺得這樣是不是非常值得、非常正確？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳主任委員政忠","start":"2024-03-14T11:33:27.863000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:33:45.134000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的持續關心，也再催生了科技顧問會議，臺灣在面對未來，事實上需要國際更多的傑出領袖一起來給我們做一些建議跟comment，的確這次針對半導體、AI……","quality":0.887},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:33:45.534000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:33:54.116000+08:00","text":"我已經看到非常具有願景、有vision的目標，你也知道我會問，你會擴充它的領域別嗎？會！","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:33:54.116000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:33:56.796000+08:00","text":"一年是開兩次，還是一次？","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"吳主任委員政忠","start":"2024-03-14T11:33:56.796000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:33:57.136000+08:00","text":"一年是一次。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:33:57.456000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:33:59.717000+08:00","text":"好，那你下一個階段要擴充哪一個面向？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳主任委員政忠","start":"2024-03-14T11:34:01.357000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:34:03.618000+08:00","text":"應該是會把它全部布下來。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:34:04.078000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:34:05.138000+08:00","text":"OK，期待。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳主任委員政忠","start":"2024-03-14T11:34:05.318000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:34:13.540000+08:00","text":"事實上整個科技發展會跟所謂的STEEP有關，即社會、經濟、科技、政治跟環境。","quality":0.788},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:34:13.540000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-03-14T11:34:14.540000+08:00","text":"好，明年的全國科技顧問會議再行召開，我希望你也能夠繼續留在內閣的崗位上，為我們……","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳主任委員政忠","start":"2024-03-14T11:34:14.540000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-03-14T11:34:15.540000+08:00","text":"我會推薦新的委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:34:14.260000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:34:14.920000+08:00","text":"我也會大力推薦您持續領導我們，我個人真的看到您的願景很好！","quality":0.481},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:34:32.046000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:35:25.343000+08:00","text":"另外，在我們科技顧問會議之下，今年緊鑼密鼓接力、接棒的就是第12次全國科學技術會議、全國的科技大會，但是我要提醒，本席一直在講的文化科技或是科技文化，從鄭麗君、李永得到史哲，文化科技施政綱領已經pending了1,262天，行政院還沒有核定，我知道這個計畫文化部是主要的主責機關，你們是協力者，但是您是科技的政委，我提醒在第12次全國科技技術會議裡頭能夠把文化技術、文化科技也納為一個討論的重點，我想這個做得到，也有利於我們在review文化科技施政綱領是不是要修正。","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"吳主任委員政忠","start":"2024-03-14T11:35:26.322000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:35:30.225000+08:00","text":"這個可以，國科會目前正在安排這個……","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:35:30.225000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:35:43.035000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝您的promise，所以科技導入可以用在強化臺灣的文化韌性，就是文化資產的修復，包括可以強化我們的文化近用，也可以包括我們的語言保存。","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:35:45.037000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:36:31.461000+08:00","text":"TTA很重要，蔣萬安市長這段時間發給我們臺北市的立委厚厚的一疊公文，當中他提請跨黨派的立委來協助臺北市的建設發展，我非常同意，吳思瑤從以前到現在就是跨黨派在協助臺北市，我不會因為執政的市長是白的、是藍的而不替臺北發聲，No，吳思瑤永遠是替臺北發聲、超越黨派、走在最前面，但是我赫然發現蔣萬安市長發函要我們請中央來協助地方的事項有19個要修的法案、20個要爭取的預算項目，沒有我們努力這麼久的TTA新創基地來落腳北士科耶！","quality":0.984},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:36:46.080000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:37:20.989000+08:00","text":"上一次您跟我一起到北士科去現場考察了，我們也跟臺北市政府做成了會議方向的結論，在僅剩的北士科T3、T4的用地裡頭，用承租的方式或是專案讓售的方式讓我們的TTA有一個長治久安進駐的地點，而目前的結論似乎是臺北市願意再跟廠商在承租新的土地的地上權標案內容裡頭保留一層，需求是你們提的，大概1,400坪，然後每坪大概1,300元，這條件應當是你們談過的，但是進度到底怎麼樣？","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:37:25.432000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:37:34.317000+08:00","text":"如果這個事情是這麼地方向明確，那為什麼蔣萬安市長在要求跨黨派的立委協助臺北的中央地方合作的時候就獨漏這一項？","quality":0.904},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:37:34.898000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:37:50.747000+08:00","text":"我要說蔣萬安市長你是新創市長就搞真的，不要把這件事情一直擱在那裡，這不是吳思瑤的credit，這是臺灣科技發展的需要，這是臺北市產業進步的需要，好，就這個案子你們的立場跟進度？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳主任委員政忠","start":"2024-03-14T11:37:53.516000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:37:58.857000+08:00","text":"謝謝吳委員的關心，事實上TTA在臺北小巨蛋已經……","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:37:58.857000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:00.758000+08:00","text":"短期再承租7年嘛！","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"吳主任委員政忠","start":"2024-03-14T11:38:01.518000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:11.062000+08:00","text":"那的確也不是一個長久之計，如果臺北市有適合的地方，我去看了一下應該是滿好的地點之一。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:38:12.522000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:17.264000+08:00","text":"我們現在還有7年的時間可以來繼續下一個中長期的計畫，因為現在你們又再繼續續租小巨蛋，還被臺北市漲租金，每坪增加83塊，漲我們租金耶！","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:38:17.365000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:20.746000+08:00","text":"好，我們勉為其難繼續租用，但未來長程的合作落腳在北士科，大家都搞了這麼久、看了這麼久，我會再次督促蔣萬安市長，新創市長就玩真的，不要打假球！","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:38:41.035000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:41.235000+08:00","text":"那國科會準備好了嗎？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:38:41.235000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:41.495000+08:00","text":"我們加強跟他們洽談好嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳主任委員政忠","start":"2024-03-14T11:38:41.495000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:41.695000+08:00","text":"這個應該對臺北市也是一個plus。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:38:41.715000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:44.156000+08:00","text":"那say yes，我們不管臺北市怎麼樣delay，我們不會放棄、思瑤不會放棄，I am watching you all，OK。","quality":0.811},{"speaker":"吳主任委員政忠","start":"2024-03-14T11:38:44.156000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:45.156000+08:00","text":"OK，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2024-03-14T11:38:44.356000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:44.556000+08:00","text":"加油，謝謝，謝謝主席給我時間，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-03-14T11:38:45.056000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:47.341714+08:00","text":"好，謝謝吳思瑤委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-03-14T11:38:47.641714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:54.213143+08:00","text":"我們接下來請鄭正鈐委員，鄭正鈐委員，鄭正鈐委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-03-14T11:38:54.513143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-03-14T11:38:57.656000+08:00","text":"我們接下來請林倩綺委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}