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我數字有沒有錯815過來是4次就4次嘛全部發生在誰任內但是跟委員報告齁那幾次的停電都是在白天太陽光你不要跟我講白天晚上阿我只問是幾次4次你講完誰任內嘛全部參議員任內嘛對啦你們不缺電啦但你們大停電特別多啦最後一個數字講完就結束啦"},{"start":383.234,"end":403.203,"text":"2016年我們每戶每人每年每戶每戶每年的停電分鐘數請問部長是多少我直接告訴你你又答不出來我知道16分鐘你知道2022年加上我們的所謂的大停電號就是所謂303大停電號每戶每年的停電時間是多少你知道嗎106分鐘啦你這台電數字喔"},{"start":409.914,"end":436.12,"text":"羅委員您的時間到囉六倍我跟你講連第四個不缺電的預言他都中了啦所以部長我要告訴您齁您之前主張你願意對於核能採取所謂正面態度這是正確的差一政府四個票票馬政府四個預言都達到以上謝謝"},{"start":440.098,"end":445.246,"text":"謝謝羅智強委員的發言來部長請回座休息我想還是要尊重一下主席的才事"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:09:39.755000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:09:41.536000+08:00","text":"主席，有請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:09:41.536000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:09:51.241000+08:00","text":"請郭部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:09:51.241000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:09:51.541000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:09:52.501000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:01.549000+08:00","text":"我曾經擔任過總統府副秘書長，對於馬英九總統當時許多重要政策，我是負責追蹤的。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:02.629000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:15.313000+08:00","text":"我還記得馬總統那時候跟我談到一件事情，就是針對蔡英文總統講的2025非核家園，他曾經對我做了四大預言，我要請教部長這四大預言有沒有成真。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:16.414000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:19.495000+08:00","text":"他的第一個預言是再生能源2025年達到20%絕對跳票，請問馬英九的預言成真了嗎？","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:35.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:37.550000+08:00","text":"因為各種變數關係，現在只能做到……","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:37.751000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:39.571000+08:00","text":"你只要跟我講，這預言成真了嗎？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:39.571000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:41.952000+08:00","text":"到了2025年，我們的再生能源能到20%嗎？","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:41.952000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:43.733000+08:00","text":"你只要跟我講到不到得了。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:43.733000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:46.334000+08:00","text":"我想根據當時的……","quality":0.143},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:46.334000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:47.274000+08:00","text":"部長，你光是這個問題就回答了25秒欸！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:47.274000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:47.574000+08:00","text":"到得了嗎？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:47.574000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:47.875000+08:00","text":"2025要達到20%，做得到嗎？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:55.760000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:56.100000+08:00","text":"應該是做不到。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:57.121000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:10:57.741000+08:00","text":"就是做不到。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:10:58.521000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:00.442000+08:00","text":"那麼請問馬英九總統的預言成真了嗎？","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:00.442000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:01.322000+08:00","text":"跳票了沒？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:01.723000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:02.103000+08:00","text":"2025跳票了沒？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:06.985000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:09.546000+08:00","text":"不會第一個問題就以5分鐘發呆結束吧？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:09.986000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:15.168000+08:00","text":"部長，我很尊敬你，但是我希望你回答問題時有擔當一點，連這麼簡單的問題，你都已經耗了一分半。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:18.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:21.185000+08:00","text":"對於您的問題，很簡單嘛！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:21.666000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:26.469000+08:00","text":"如果您用這樣的方式、要我即答式地回應，那我就告訴你是跳票了。","quality":0.593},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:27.410000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:28.610000+08:00","text":"謝謝，一分半後你終於講了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:30.472000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:39.117000+08:00","text":"那我想請問，賴清德總統說2030年再生能源要達到多少？30%啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:39.317000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:40.038000+08:00","text":"我告訴你啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:41.479000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:46.102000+08:00","text":"你就以一個經濟部部長的立場，很負責任地告訴我，做得到嗎？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:46.102000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:47.363000+08:00","text":"對於2030年，你可以打包票做得到嗎？","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:47.363000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:48.882000+08:00","text":"我們努力去做。","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:48.882000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:50.523000+08:00","text":"你做得到嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:50.523000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:54.464000+08:00","text":"不是努力的問題，這是總統的目標欸！","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:54.464000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:55.825000+08:00","text":"對於總統的目標，我們當然要努力去做啊！","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:56.265000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:56.705000+08:00","text":"做不做得到？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:56.985000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:11:59.386000+08:00","text":"你願意打包票嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:11:59.386000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:01.067000+08:00","text":"這不是我一個人可以做的事。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:01.067000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:02.067000+08:00","text":"好，沒關係，我幫你做個結論啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:01.887000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:02.508000+08:00","text":"你很努力啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:02.728000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:07.630000+08:00","text":"但是你也不敢打包票，當然你不敢打包票啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:07.850000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:19.155000+08:00","text":"你可知道，馬總統卸任的時候，再生能源大概是5%，經過八年之後，成長到現在，再生能源比重多少？9%。部長！","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:19.155000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:22.756000+08:00","text":"你都跟我講不會停電，但我問的問題沒有一個你答得出來欸！","quality":0.76},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:22.756000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:25.277000+08:00","text":"你說不會缺電，卻沒有一個問題答得出來欸！","quality":0.722},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:25.277000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:28.178000+08:00","text":"我問到現在為止，沒有一個問題你答得出來欸！","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:28.178000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:28.498000+08:00","text":"現在是多少？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:29.958000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:30.999000+08:00","text":"請問部長，現在是多少？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:32.339000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:35.320000+08:00","text":"占比多少？9.6%。9.6%！","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:35.820000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:42.243000+08:00","text":"八年成長大概不到5%，你卻跟我講接下來六年要從9.6%變成30%，要成長20%？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:47.021000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:49.802000+08:00","text":"部長，你覺得這張票會不會是芭樂票啊？","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:49.822000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:50.522000+08:00","text":"成為芭樂票的機率高不高啊？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:51.443000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:51.643000+08:00","text":"我們會重新去檢討這些結構。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:51.643000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:51.703000+08:00","text":"謝謝你啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:51.863000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:51.983000+08:00","text":"我知道啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:52.183000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:52.903000+08:00","text":"非核之後會大幅依賴火力，然後也會違反世界減碳趨勢。","quality":0.652},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:12:52.903000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:12:53.304000+08:00","text":"這個預言成真了沒有？","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:15.566000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:18.747000+08:00","text":"這個是過程，從低碳到零碳當然是一個過程。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:18.747000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:19.528000+08:00","text":"這個預言成真了沒有？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:19.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:21.788000+08:00","text":"現在是不是大幅依賴火力、是不是這樣？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:23.949000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:25.110000+08:00","text":"我們現在是。是嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:25.690000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:27.611000+08:00","text":"所以馬總統第二個預言也成真了嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:28.151000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:29.711000+08:00","text":"很佩服他，可以預言成真。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:30.832000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:30.832000+08:00","text":"謝謝喔！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:30.832000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:32.272000+08:00","text":"部長，你終於願意肯定。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:35.353000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:35.373000+08:00","text":"電價必漲！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:35.373000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:36.134000+08:00","text":"請問你知不知道馬總統八年任內電價漲了大概多少嗎？","quality":0.652},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:36.134000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:43.791000+08:00","text":"不知道。23%啦！","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:43.791000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:47.619000+08:00","text":"蔡英文八年任內漲多少？33%啦！","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:48.120000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:48.461000+08:00","text":"哪一個比較高？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:48.701000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:51.406000+08:00","text":"33%高還是23%高是數學問題，經濟部長應該答得出來。","quality":0.762},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:55.009000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:57.470000+08:00","text":"這裡面當然有很多不可預期的因素啦！","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:58.311000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:58.831000+08:00","text":"你不要講那些！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:13:58.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:13:59.971000+08:00","text":"你統統用不可預期因素解釋！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:00.452000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:03.513000+08:00","text":"但我只跟你講絕對數字，23%跟33%哪一個高？","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:04.293000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:04.293000+08:00","text":"這是數學……","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:05.114000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:06.014000+08:00","text":"當然是33%高啊！","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:06.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:06.614000+08:00","text":"那很好啊！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:07.395000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:07.395000+08:00","text":"謝謝你喔！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:07.735000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:08.635000+08:00","text":"第三個預言也成真啦！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:09.015000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:15.098000+08:00","text":"那我想請教部長，你敢不敢像蔡英文一樣大聲地告訴大家十年不大漲電價？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:15.098000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:15.398000+08:00","text":"你敢不敢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:15.798000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:16.199000+08:00","text":"你願不願意？","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:17.099000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:18.440000+08:00","text":"我以科學的態度是不願意。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:18.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:19.800000+08:00","text":"非常好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:19.800000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:29.476000+08:00","text":"部長，我現在開始尊敬你了，你用科學態度面對這個問題，做不到的事情不要亂承諾，部長就展現了一個非常好的典範。","quality":0.854},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:29.476000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:31.098000+08:00","text":"第四點，我跟你就有點意見不同。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:31.319000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:36.064000+08:00","text":"你說電力不缺，馬總統說電力必缺，我後來發現原因在哪裡。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:37.209000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:43.513000+08:00","text":"有一個人年薪千萬，他覺得很缺錢──有可能嘛！","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:43.733000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:43.993000+08:00","text":"對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:43.993000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:45.935000+08:00","text":"年薪千萬且覺得很缺錢，可能嘛！","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:46.655000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:48.676000+08:00","text":"但也有人年薪百萬，覺得不缺錢嘛！","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:48.896000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:49.657000+08:00","text":"對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:49.657000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:54.680000+08:00","text":"缺不缺是主觀感受問題，但我要問的是民眾觀感上的停電問題。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:54.680000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:14:58.142000+08:00","text":"部長，我想請教您，現在停電的狀況怎麼樣？","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:14:58.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:04.226000+08:00","text":"我問你，過去20年，超過百萬戶以上的大停電發生過幾次？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:08.121000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:08.982000+08:00","text":"過去20年發生過幾次百萬戶以上停電？","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:08.982000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:09.982000+08:00","text":"我可不可請台電主管說明？","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:09.042000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:09.142000+08:00","text":"可以，請說。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"王總經理耀庭","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:09.142000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:10.142000+08:00","text":"報告委員，20年我們當然沒有統計，但是我知道最近從513、517……","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:09.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:09.743000+08:00","text":"我告訴你，你是不願意公布資料。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:09.843000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:10.423000+08:00","text":"發生百萬戶以上大停電的次數你沒統計？有啦！","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:10.483000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:10.803000+08:00","text":"我在馬政府的時候就看過資料啦！","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:10.843000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:11.784000+08:00","text":"這20年、包括這16年，包括馬政府到蔡英文政府、甚至陳水扁政府，就4次！","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:33.571000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:33.891000+08:00","text":"沒錯吧！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:34.772000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:36.874000+08:00","text":"我的數字有沒有錯？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"王總經理耀庭","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:36.874000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:37.074000+08:00","text":"對，815過來是4次。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:37.615000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:38.175000+08:00","text":"就4次嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:39.256000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:41.378000+08:00","text":"全部發生在誰任內？","quality":1},{"speaker":"王總經理耀庭","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:41.378000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:44.160000+08:00","text":"但是跟委員報告，那幾次停電都是在白天，備轉容量率很高的時候。","quality":0.63},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:45.241000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:46.723000+08:00","text":"你不要跟我講白天、晚上啦！","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:47.784000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:48.885000+08:00","text":"我只問你是幾次？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:49.105000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:50.306000+08:00","text":"4次，那你講是誰任內嘛！","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:50.526000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:52.368000+08:00","text":"全部都在蔡英文任內嘛！對啦！","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:52.548000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:53.389000+08:00","text":"你們不缺電啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:53.669000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:55.350000+08:00","text":"但是大停電特別多啦！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:55.871000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:15:57.532000+08:00","text":"最後一個數字講完就結束啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:15:59.234000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:05.417000+08:00","text":"2016年每戶每年的停電分鐘數，請問部長是多少？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:06.077000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:09.119000+08:00","text":"我直接告訴你，你又答不出來了我知道──16分鐘。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:09.119000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:18.423000+08:00","text":"你知道2022年加上所謂的大停電──也就是303大停電，每戶每年的停電時間是多少？","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:18.603000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:18.943000+08:00","text":"你知道嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:18.943000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:18.963000+08:00","text":"106分鐘啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:19.023000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:19.183000+08:00","text":"也是台電的數字喔！","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:19.183000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:20.865750+08:00","text":"沒錯吧？","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:20.865750+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:22.548500+08:00","text":"我沒講錯吧？","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:22.548500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:24.231250+08:00","text":"謝謝你喔！","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:24.231250+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:25.914000+08:00","text":"106分鐘是16分鐘的多少倍？","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:25.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:34.216000+08:00","text":"羅委員，您的時間到了喔！6倍。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:34.216000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:35.756000+08:00","text":"羅委員，您的時間到了喔！6倍。","quality":0.091},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:35.756000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:38.677000+08:00","text":"我跟你講，連第四個不缺電的預言都中了啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:38.677000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:40.077000+08:00","text":"羅委員，您的時間到了喔！","quality":0},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:40.077000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:41.237000+08:00","text":"所以，部長，我要告訴您……","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:41.237000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:42.237000+08:00","text":"羅委員！","quality":0},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:41.437000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:47.099000+08:00","text":"您之前主張、願意對核能採取正面態度，這是正確的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:48.319000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:51.600000+08:00","text":"蔡政府四個跳票，馬政府四個預言都達到！","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"郭部長智輝","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:52+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:52.120000+08:00","text":"以上，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:56.098000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:16:58.321000+08:00","text":"謝謝羅智強委員的發言，部長請回座休息。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:16:58.902000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:00.645000+08:00","text":"我想還是要尊重一下主席的裁示。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:01.145000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:07.145000+08:00","text":"前面那麼多人逾時，我也尊重你，一講完我就下來了。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:07.445000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:09.730714+08:00","text":"請鍾佳濱委員發言。","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:10.030714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:15.459286+08:00","text":"不要針對性、講到重點就說超時，濫用主席權力！","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:15.759286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:17.187857+08:00","text":"我還不懂你？","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:17.487857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:20.345000+08:00","text":"是不是又要打人耳光了？","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:20.645000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:24.073571+08:00","text":"請問您是要來這裡吵架的嗎？","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:24.373571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:32.945000+08:00","text":"不，是你來跟我吵架，我在那邊質詢，每個質詢的人若有逾時，你提醒他下來……","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:33.245000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:35.530714+08:00","text":"請羅廷瑋委員發言。","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:35.830714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:40.687857+08:00","text":"你提醒我，我也下臺，那你憑什麼事後說我！","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:40.987857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:41.987857+08:00","text":"憑什麼？","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:42.287857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:44.859286+08:00","text":"做人公道一點，不要酸！","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:45.159286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:51.159286+08:00","text":"不要我一問到重點你怕了，就開始用這種方式來做。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:51.459286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:53.745000+08:00","text":"請尊重主權的職權。","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:54.045000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:17:55.473571+08:00","text":"你沒尊重我！","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:17:55.773571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:18:00.059286+08:00","text":"如果您有病的話，就請吃藥、請看醫生。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:18:00.359286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:18:02.645000+08:00","text":"請羅廷瑋委員發言。","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:18:02.945000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:18:05.802143+08:00","text":"我就是有病才尊重妳啦！","quality":0.1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2024-06-05T13:18:06.102143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:18:09.816429+08:00","text":"但是我不會打你耳光啦，邱議瑩！","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:18:10.116429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:18:12.402143+08:00","text":"有病真的要看醫生。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2024-06-05T13:18:12.702143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2024-06-05T13:18:14.987857+08:00","text":"請羅廷瑋委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}