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渐进为原则稳步完成人员转型这才是对国家对人民最负责任的态度戴华要在这边强调中央与地方在空污治理上的目标是一致的民进党也将持续与地方紧密合作共同推动人员结构优化打造一个干净安全永续的用电环境"},{"start":159.059,"end":176.077,"text":"人員政策需要理性的討論與跨黨派的支持任何取信息的言語與錯誤訊息的傳播都無助於問題的解決我們每一位肩負公職責任的人都應該展現高度格局跟誠信為台灣未來負責謝謝 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