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謝謝林倩琦委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:04:00.834000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:04:01.014000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，請勞動部長洪部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-11-17T13:04:01.014000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:04:01.054000+08:00","text":"請洪部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:04:01.054000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:04:01.074000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2025-11-17T13:04:01.074000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-11-17T13:04:02.074000+08:00","text":"林委員好。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:04:01.134000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:04:03.415000+08:00","text":"我相信應該有不少的委員跟您討論過有關於國際勞動統計的警訊，當然您有一些回應，每個委員也有一些不同的解釋。","quality":0.98},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:04:03.655000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:04:39.864000+08:00","text":"這幾年來除了今年，而今年公布去年（2024年）的總工時2,030小時，相較於我們過去在2010年試圖降到1,999小時之後，去年2030.4小時相對還是比較高。","quality":0.736},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:04:40.445000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:04:52.935000+08:00","text":"您剛才也有提到，我們第五名的成績就算不是全世界所有國家的排名，但是基本上在所有被評鑑的國家，我們還是高居第五，是亞洲第二。","quality":0.839},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:04:53.835000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:05:06.646000+08:00","text":"重點是我們是先進的經濟體，但是工時結構似乎還停留在高度仰賴加班的形式，所以整體來講，我們當然是要做很大的調整。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:05:08.868000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:05:28.282000+08:00","text":"您剛才也討論到業別，在製造業的工時，本席這邊的資料大概高達2,125個小時，電子組件行業甚至到2,258小時，其實這樣還是有結構性的警訊。","quality":0.821},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:05:28.282000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:05:47.368000+08:00","text":"缺工的問題如果沒有被改善，勞動參與率、停滯率及特休制度就沒有辦法反應在現代勞動的負荷，所以企業習慣也是用加班來取代增聘，整體環境還是有需要做很大調整的空間。","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:05:48.588000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:05:54.930000+08:00","text":"本席今天要請教勞動部，目前的政策能不能改善這些結構性的問題？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:05:54.930000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:05:59.591000+08:00","text":"比如第一個勞動參與率偏低，你們要如何提升呢？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:06:00.131000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:06:17.036000+08:00","text":"臺灣的勞動參與率長期大概在56%到60%左右，低於日、韓、歐盟跟美國，在當前企業的缺工情況下，我們似乎沒有辦法提高薪資來吸引勞工回流。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:06:18.176000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:06:39.969000+08:00","text":"雖然近幾年我們有最低薪資的調整，但是整體吸引勞工回流的部分，並沒有非常的吸引人，取代的是我們用現有的人力加班支撐，這似乎是在勞動市場常有的狀況。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:06:39.969000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:06:58.040000+08:00","text":"本席要請教，在產業的聘用裡常常都是既有的勞工先加班，再來考慮增聘，針對這樣的現況，是不是有機會調整跟改變？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:06:58.360000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:07:06.645000+08:00","text":"我想請教一下勞動部，目前有沒有研議提高中高齡或婦女的參與率？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:07:07.586000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:07:24.636000+08:00","text":"舉幾個例子，像托育的友善工時、彈性工時的制度，或者是預防中高齡勞工職場歧視的專法或指引，還有協助女性職涯回流的補助與企業的誘因。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:07:25.697000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:07:30.920000+08:00","text":"第二個，你們有沒有可能訂出提高勞動參與率的具體目標？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:07:31.361000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:07:37.284000+08:00","text":"由勞動部這邊來訂定，我想這是最基本能夠改善缺工、降低工時的方式。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:07:38.425000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:07:52.291000+08:00","text":"我們這幾年的工時排名幾乎每一年都居高不下，對於整個勞動市場來講也不是太健康，你們是不是考慮一下要怎麼樣作制度性的調整跟改變？","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:07:52.791000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:07:55.732000+08:00","text":"以上幾個問題，是不是可以請勞動部先做個回應？","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2025-11-17T13:07:55.732000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:08:04.201000+08:00","text":"跟委員說明，簡報上委員所列的這三個作法，我們都有在做，不管是托育友善……","quality":0.774},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:08:04.301000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:08:08.065000+08:00","text":"有沒有什麼樣短、中、長期的具體目標？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:08:08.065000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:08:21.599000+08:00","text":"比如本席常常聽到，我們目前對於兒少，或者青年，都有很具體的一些專法跟方案，但是中高齡常常在社會上就變成是一個……","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2025-11-17T13:08:21.599000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:08:22.700000+08:00","text":"中高齡也有專法。OK！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:08:23.300000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:08:33.587000+08:00","text":"所以你們對這個部分的訂定，有沒有實際去了解對於職場上中高齡被歧視的相對比較？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2025-11-17T13:08:33.647000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:08:40.251000+08:00","text":"中高齡也有就業專法，在就業專法立法之後，其實現在中高齡的計畫也在實施，也算是有成效。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:08:40.511000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:08:52.857000+08:00","text":"今天就法規上提出一個比較實際的誘因，也希望中高齡回流，除了被歧視以外，另外在實際的支撐上……","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2025-11-17T13:08:52.857000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-11-17T13:08:53.857000+08:00","text":"現在關於……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:08:53.137000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:08:55.578000+08:00","text":"也希望能夠透過法律來做一個保障。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2025-11-17T13:08:56.518000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:01.759000+08:00","text":"現在關於就業歧視的問題，我想法規上面大概都是有的，就是怎麼樣遏止歧視的問題。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:01.759000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:03.179000+08:00","text":"但的確……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:03.179000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:03.359000+08:00","text":"勞動部就可以針對……","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:03.519000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:06.020000+08:00","text":"我們要怎麼讓它能夠更落實、更普遍……","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:06.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:09.281000+08:00","text":"法規是有了，但是在實際現況裡要如何再去match？當然！","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:09.321000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:13.902000+08:00","text":"我們希望讓它推動更有成效，這也必須透過計畫跟資源，所以……","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:13.962000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:18.343000+08:00","text":"所以你們在提高勞動力參與中，有本席所講的這三種具體目標嗎？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:19.143000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:25.569000+08:00","text":"其實這幾年中高齡勞參率的目標是有在提高的，但我們認為還可以再更加強。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:25.869000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:29.532000+08:00","text":"是不是可以提供給本席很具體的，你們有在提高這部分的資料？","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:29.953000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:35.057000+08:00","text":"是不是有每一年數據、作法及檢視的指標？","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:35.057000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:37.079000+08:00","text":"好，我們相關作法跟數據會提供給委員知道，謝謝。","quality":0.15},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:37.079000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:39.181000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:39.181000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:40.002000+08:00","text":"謝謝林倩綺委員發言。","quality":0.444},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-11-17T13:09:40.502000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-11-17T13:09:43.644857+08:00","text":"接下來請牛煦庭委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}