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谋高于仗科技一直在进步我们会把相当科技一直在希望老师在培育因为老师是教学现场指导引学生的最主要的养"},{"start":620.592,"end":647.614,"text":"我們今天是在討論說有關這個演算法試讀之類的事情而且討論這些議題因為現在老師越來越難找老師講你們大家都知道今天我們不是討論這個議題但是如果說老師越來越難找的時候那未來AI的使用期率越來越高那我只能說請求教育部在這邊好好討好好研討說如何在教材上面在課程上面在內容上面做出做出長足的長足的置入不然的話"},{"start":648.374,"end":667.303,"text":"對於未來的學子或對於下一個世代AI不見得是完全是幫助是一體兩面刃所以如何在這邊教導他們或是引導他們在下一個世代能夠好好做事是很重要的一塊謝謝林沛翔委員質詢 觀眾請回座接下來請"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:41:03.209000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:41:04.671000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請劉次長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-11-20T10:41:04.671000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:41:04.811000+08:00","text":"請劉次長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉次長國偉","start":"2025-11-20T10:41:04.811000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:41:05.372000+08:00","text":"委員早。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:41:09.895000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:41:09.895000+08:00","text":"次長早。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:41:11.036000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:41:19.624000+08:00","text":"您過去在明新科大任內，最引以為傲的就是推動所謂的半導體產學專班，被視為私校生存的模範生。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:41:20.525000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:41:31.575000+08:00","text":"但是今天您換了角色成為主管機關，面對現在失控的學工亂象，甚至有外籍生因為工安意外而喪命，像是黎明技術學院的案子。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:41:32.836000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:41:33.656000+08:00","text":"請問一下，您怎麼看？","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉次長國偉","start":"2025-11-20T10:41:35.711000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:42:03.517000+08:00","text":"第一個，我過去當校長在推動招生的時候，我們都會要求不管是系所，還有我們實習的廠家，第一個要簽約；第二個，我們要確保學生去實習的資格，而且連他們實習的條件跟工作的環境，我們學校都應該而且必須去了解是否合乎安全標準。","quality":0.577},{"speaker":"劉次長國偉","start":"2025-11-20T10:42:07.138000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:42:16.221000+08:00","text":"我們大學端比較少有學工的部分，所以我們覺得我不同意說實習生有淪為學工的疑慮。","quality":0.611},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:42:17.182000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:42:22.744000+08:00","text":"因為老實講，您的成功案例反而某個程度上變成教育部縱容的藉口。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:42:23.784000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:42:48.372000+08:00","text":"您在明新科技大學（明新科大）時也曾經說過，大學就是人才培育的場域，強調「入學即就業」，但是現在監察院的報告指出，大量後段私校畫虎不成反類犬，勾結仲介讓外籍生背債來臺，每週工讀超過40個小時，把學生變成廉價的非典型勞工。","quality":0.695},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:42:49.253000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:42:51.673000+08:00","text":"請具體說明，要如何修正實習課程的審核標準？","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"劉次長國偉","start":"2025-11-20T10:42:55.074000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:43:05.822000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，在我來教育部之前，我自己當校長時也被教育部所督導，事實上我們教育部都有實地去訪視，去做教育品質的查核。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"劉次長國偉","start":"2025-11-20T10:43:06.542000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:43:25.437000+08:00","text":"我們一再強調，任何學生要有工作證才能出去實習跟打工，不管是實習或打工，總時數絕對不能超過，我再強調，絕對不能超過40，也不能做大夜班的加班，如果有查到，我們一定會列入專輔，事實上技職大……","quality":0.877},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:43:26.177000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:43:29.721000+08:00","text":"所以你認為現在的審核標準不需要修正嗎？什麼？","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:43:30.381000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:43:36.047000+08:00","text":"現在的實習課程審核標準不需要任何程度的修正，您是這樣認為的嗎？","quality":0.586},{"speaker":"劉次長國偉","start":"2025-11-20T10:43:37.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:43:43.008000+08:00","text":"現在如果已經實習的話，除非有哪些偏頗的地方，您是說不要超過40小時嗎？","quality":0.633},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:43:45.290000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:44:00.886000+08:00","text":"應該這樣講，是否能承諾未來所有產學專班的實習合約必須比照勞基法，建立薪資直接入戶，尤其對外籍生，禁止仲介經手，而且建立實習場域安全個別評估的強制機制呢？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"劉次長國偉","start":"2025-11-20T10:44:01.342000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:44:35.935000+08:00","text":"有，我們目前已經有了，我們也要求各大學在招生的時候不得藉由任何仲介，甚至在尋找實習廠商的時候，也不得藉由任何仲介；然後在學生要出去實習之前，學校不管是系所、院校都要有實習合約，那部分都有標準的模式；而且委員您最最關心的，是不是合乎勞動部主管的職安安全，我們都已經列入其中，而且事後我們也會去到職校……","quality":0.676},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:44:36.055000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:44:47.223000+08:00","text":"如果學校……其實這些我希望不是通案，因為我知道我們缺工得很厲害，如果個案一直發生的時候，難免讓人懷疑這未來會不會是一種通案？","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:44:47.763000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:44:55.908000+08:00","text":"如果學校再發生學工剝削事件，教育部除了扣減招生名額這種不痛不癢的處分之外，有沒有什麼具體的退場機制？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"劉次長國偉","start":"2025-11-20T10:44:57.110000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:45:19.555000+08:00","text":"有的，我們馬上列入專案輔導學校（專輔學校），那對任何一個學校，包括私立學校，都是非常嚴重的事情，因為一旦列入專輔學校，就不能招外籍學生，即便脫離專輔學校，也還有好幾年不能招外籍學生，對一般私立學校來講，是一個很嚴重的打擊。","quality":0.612},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥：好。另外一個議題","start":"2025-11-20T10:45:22.835000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:45:43.743000+08:00","text":"教育部雖然在2025年更新了AI指引，但大多數還是停留在理論上的宣導，您是電機博士，很清楚大型語言模型本質上是在機率預測，而非知識庫，目前教育部的AI素養教育很多只是在教學生怎麼下指令，老實講這只是在培養被AI取代的人。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥：好。另外一個議題","start":"2025-11-20T10:45:44.523000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:45:56.971000+08:00","text":"請問教育部在114學年度的課綱微調或計畫中，有沒有具體的預算科目是來教導學生逆向解析演算法的邏輯？","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥：好。另外一個議題","start":"2025-11-20T10:45:56.971000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:46:06.717000+08:00","text":"是否從您的專業跟經驗出發，要求各級學校的資安跟媒體課程必須加入辨識演算法錯誤跟對抗成癮機制的實作測驗？","qua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AI」，幫助高中老師批改國文作文。","quality":0.688},{"speaker":"劉次長國偉","start":"2025-11-20T10:46:39.456000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:46:49.838000+08:00","text":"委員剛剛講的逆向式的AI coding應該比較適合一些大學研究單位，我們的高教司和技職司、資科司也有一些專案的……","quality":0.558},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:46:50.078000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:47:09.665000+08:00","text":"這就是我們現在會遇到的狀況，因為現在AI工具太好用，很容易上手，變成很多心智還不成熟的學生就直接使用這些AI工具，去做一些成品出來，可是相對比較起來是剝奪他們本身的知識和創作權。","quality":0.831},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:47:09.786000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:47:17.609000+08:00","text":"我想請次長說明教育部要如何從教學生使用工具轉型成教學生駕馭演算法呢？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"吳司長穎沺","start":"2025-11-20T10:47:20.459000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:47:37.941000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，其實我們教育部和聯合國教科文組織一樣，13歲以下小孩子的心智還沒有成熟，所以我們鼓勵的是用教育部所開發的專為教育用的生成式AI教育工具，來幫助學生學習。","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"吳司長穎沺","start":"2025-11-20T10:47:39.682000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:47:50.248000+08:00","text":"我們也跟老師講，如果老師要用其他商業用的，特別是高中，要特別注意不會有學習替代的狀況。","quality":0.974},{"speaker":"吳司長穎沺","start":"2025-11-20T10:47:52.789000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:48:03.875000+08:00","text":"有關老師如何讓AI融入教學，來增加學生學習，而不是取代學生學習，我們目前也在舉辦這方面的研習。","quality":0.674},{"speaker":"吳司長穎沺","start":"2025-11-20T10:48:03.875000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:48:13.400000+08:00","text":"如同委員講的，這個事情非常重要，所以我們教育部去年就開始做這件事情，這個部分我們會持續努力。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"吳司長穎沺","start":"2025-11-20T10:48:14.060000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:48:32.192000+08:00","text":"有關演算法教學法，演算法部分我們有高中多元選修的AI課程，因為這個部分的技術比較難，但是辨識的部分我們會從素養教育，就是我們希望……","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:48:32.953000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:48:36.716000+08:00","text":"不好意思，你講到演算法，這就是我剛剛想要問的最後一個問題。","quality":0.615},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:48:38.938000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:48:52.489000+08:00","text":"我們剛剛講到的只是AI工具的演算法、針對我們現在擁有的東西，但是請問教育部在114學年度的課綱或教材裡面，有沒有具體的章節是教導學生解析短影音平臺的演算法？","quality":0.676},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:48:53.990000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:49:08.841000+08:00","text":"坦白說，就是教孩子如何看穿平臺是如何利用變動獎勵機制來設計成癮迴路，如果連最基本的演算法識讀都沒有，我們如何期待孩子能夠對抗演算法的成癮陷阱？","quality":0.716},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:49:09.681000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:49:16.386000+08:00","text":"一句話叫「道高一尺，魔高一丈」，但是「道」總是要做些事情，不能一天到晚只說我們做不到，對吧？","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"戴副署長淑芬","start":"2025-11-20T10:49:17.364000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:49:46.878000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們課綱是108年審訂的，到114年，其實在整個AI或是整個數位方面已經有很大的發展，我們會透過教學指引，引導老師在教學上也可以融入，然後把演算法、程式設計、人工智慧的概念代入教學。","quality":0.89},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:49:48.479000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:50:05.575000+08:00","text":"老實說，我滿擔心的，因為現在的世界重點不是你看到什麼，而是你如何去識讀，不管是我們現在看到的媒體識讀，還是未來的演算法識讀，如果這一塊教育部沒有放在心上的話，未來我們的學子很容易被牽著走。","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:50:06.136000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:50:08.279000+08:00","text":"我相信你們會跟我講：我們當然有、當然有。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:50:08.679000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:50:39.362000+08:00","text":"但是我剛剛說「道高一尺，魔高一丈」，尤其是現在，13歲的小孩基本上對AI、app各方面的抵抗力越來越弱，現在又是資訊爆炸的年代，我希望教育部不只是針對單純的媒體識讀或演算法識讀，還有很多不同的東西，都要教孩子如何在第一時間不帶偏見去識讀，這點會是教育部未來在教育小朋友的時候很重要的一環。","quality":0.638},{"speaker":"劉次長國偉","start":"2025-11-20T10:50:40.743000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:51:23.212000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的指教，事實上我們從過去到現在都一直在辦理資訊科技教師在職進修第二專長，讓不是教資訊的老師過來上一些學分班，這個課程包含演算法、程式設計和人工智慧，從106年就開始做，到113年已經辦了46班，一共有969人參加，我們會持續辦理，也會持續跟進，去更新我們的課程內容，就是委員講的「道高一尺，魔高一丈」，科技一直在進步，我們會一直希望老師再接受培育，因為老師是在教學現場引導學生最主要的人。","quality":0.74},{"speaker":"林委員沛祥","start":"2025-11-20T10:51:23.592000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:52:09.343000+08:00","text":"我們今天是在討論演算法識讀之類的議題，因為現在老師越來越難找，老實講，大家都知道，雖然今天我們不是在討論這個議題，但是如果老師越來越難找，而未來AI的使用度又越來越高，我只能請求教育部好好地研討如何在教材上面、在課程上面、在內容上面做出長足的置入，不然對於未來的學子、對於下一個世代，AI不見得是完全有幫助的，刀是一體兩面刃，所以如何教導他們或是引導他們在下一個世代好好做事，這是很重要的一塊。","quality":0.928},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-11-20T10:52:09.343000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:52:10.043000+08:00","text":"謝謝林沛祥委員質詢，官員請回座。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-11-20T10:52:10.123000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-11-20T10:52:10.303000+08:00","text":"接下來請林宜瑾委員質詢。","quality":0.364}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}