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我們就看來 交通部你看喔 今年的觀光利差1500億喔"},{"start":618.786,"end":642.581,"text":"1500以後其實只要陸客來的話通通拒絕了那個 副主委要不要講一下你為什麼不開放陸客 讓陸客來多一點這個就達到達標 你們要達1000萬的目標 現在達不到啊各位報告 我想我們這個開放陸客我想這部分還是必須要考慮到我們國內的整個情境那現在大陸陸委會的關係啦"},{"start":643.982,"end":648.666,"text":"我們已經有去函對岸 請他們能夠回函給我們然後我們啟動觀光小兩會的對談最近不是你們也辦一個團在北京辦一個北京來報導的一個end away是你們辦的啊"},{"start":667.163,"end":676.793,"text":"那個是我們的台旅會辦的所以我們對觀光的態度一向是很open只是對面遲遲沒有給我們正式的回覆"},{"start":677.591,"end":692.216,"text":"你們可以更open一點 你從那個武皇山被換成蘇嘉軒就知道你們兩岸的關係就希望讓他繼續惡化嘛就是惡化才符合你們的政治利益嘛我們絕對沒有希望要惡化我們希望兩岸關係穩定沒有 如果這樣搞的話 老實講啊這個陸委會都可以拆掉了啦這個陸委會不交流委員會啊實在是好 謝謝 謝謝賴委員接下來我們請賴會議員委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:42:15.970000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:42:19.993000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席以及各位先進。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:42:19.993000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:42:41.344000+08:00","text":"為節省時間，我等一下要問的幾位長官，財政部長、主計長，還有經濟部的何次長、衛福部的林次長、陸委會的梁副主委、交通部的次長，請一起上來好不好？","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"陳主計長淑姿","start":"2025-12-24T09:42:41.344000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:42:41.424000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-12-24T09:42:43.465000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:42:46.287000+08:00","text":"請剛剛委員所點到的官員依序上臺。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-12-24T09:42:46.287000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:42:47.287000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2025-12-24T09:42:46.367000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:42:46.947000+08:00","text":"請陸委會梁副主任委員。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:42:56.219000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:42:56.800000+08:00","text":"各位長官好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:42:57+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:43:38.646000+08:00","text":"我先問一下主計長，今天排這個題目，召委當然有權力排任何題目，這個題目老實講很簡單，剛才你也講了，你們不依法編列，視立法權如無物，掏空立法權，我們三讀通過的法案給軍人加薪，買武器一堆，國防預算九千多億，然後加韌性一千多億，加1兆2,500億，如果通過的話，那總共兩兆多，難道不應該給軍人志願役的加薪嗎？","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:43:38.646000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:43:53.898000+08:00","text":"法案就通過了，加完薪軍人的待遇跟世界比也沒有特別高啊，你們不編列；然後警消退休的所得替代率要提升為八成，看到最近的張文事件，代表警察很辛苦啊，我們要特別的照顧他們，讓更多人因為退休的保障願意來當警察。","quality":0.728},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:43:54.518000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:05.864000+08:00","text":"就這麼簡單的事情，這兩個你依法編列可以審，為什麼不能審？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:05.864000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:06.664000+08:00","text":"為什麼不要審總預算？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:07.225000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:07.605000+08:00","text":"當然要審啊！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:07.965000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:12.068000+08:00","text":"你不依法編列，怎麼可以你講說違憲就違憲？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:12.068000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:13.068000+08:00","text":"「凊彩講講咧」（隨便說說）！","quality":0.111},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:12.828000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:13.429000+08:00","text":"你是大法官啊？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:14.109000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:16.451000+08:00","text":"你怎麼敢講我們通過的叫違憲？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:16.451000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:17.511000+08:00","text":"你又不是大法官，怎麼講違憲？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:17.511000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:32.687000+08:00","text":"所以，來，因為我題目很多，你不要講一堆喔，我就問你，來、來、來，你不要走，就問你、就問你，你要不要公開承諾，審總預算的時候，審完馬上追加預算？","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:33.969000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:37.833000+08:00","text":"這兩筆追加預算，我們就馬上審，就這樣，可以承諾嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:37.833000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:38.113000+08:00","text":"可以承諾嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:38.113000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:38.574000+08:00","text":"Yes？No？","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:39.575000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:40.295000+08:00","text":"其他不要講，就講這個。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳主計長淑姿","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:40.295000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:48.684000+08:00","text":"我要跟委員報告，第一個就是說，從114年我們也有追加軍人待遇的……","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:49.045000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:49.866000+08:00","text":"你不要講，你要不要承諾啦？","quality":0.545},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:50.046000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:50.827000+08:00","text":"要不要承諾？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳主計長淑姿","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:51.187000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:51.567000+08:00","text":"這不是我承諾的問題，而是……","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:51.567000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:52.567000+08:00","text":"你不敢承諾啊！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳主計長淑姿","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:51.707000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:53.228000+08:00","text":"我們本身第一個要先籌措財源，依照財政紀律法要先籌措財源，如果有籌措財源、有相關的財源，這個部分才能夠來辦理追加，所以這個部分……","quality":0.754},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:53.328000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:53.888000+08:00","text":"這麼簡單的事情，你只要答應說我們審完預算馬上追加，那很簡單啊！","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:53.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:54.608000+08:00","text":"在我們3兆裡面，砍了1%，300億就可以有啦！","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:44:54.769000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:44:54.949000+08:00","text":"怎麼會沒有錢呢？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:45:20.220000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:45:20.780000+08:00","text":"錢在那裡啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:45:21.441000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:45:21.521000+08:00","text":"這是很簡單的事情。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳主計長淑姿","start":"2025-12-24T09:45:21.661000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:45:21.941000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們有提請釋憲，我們按照釋憲結果來辦理。","quality":0.682},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:45:22.001000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:45:48.427000+08:00","text":"你們提釋憲，你不要講違憲，因為你沒有權力講違憲，你不是大法官，不要亂講一通，更何況大法官……現在憲政的酷斯拉，酷斯拉、憲政怪獸，一個叫賴清德，一個叫卓榮泰，現在加5個尤伯祥等5位大法官，「教歹囡仔大細」！","quality":0.821},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:45:49.488000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:09.221000+08:00","text":"大家都知道公民課，我們開會的時候要達法定人數，而法定人數按照舊的憲訴法要6個，他5個就可以了，那以後我們想辦法要彈劾賴清德時，趁民進黨立委不在的時候，不在了，統統不算，我就統統通過了，變成這樣啊！","quality":0.884},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:10.081000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:10.762000+08:00","text":"不可以啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:11.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:11.302000+08:00","text":"主計長，好，你下去。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:11.402000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:11.802000+08:00","text":"我請教財政部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:11.802000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:11.822000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:11.922000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:13.323000+08:00","text":"我看到你們發布消息說網紅要課稅，有沒有這回事？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:27.502000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:32.444000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，關於稅的部分，有所得我們就會有課稅的議題。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:32.444000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:32.925000+08:00","text":"怎麼課？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:33.345000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:33.545000+08:00","text":"課多少？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:34.485000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:37.907000+08:00","text":"有關網紅課稅的部分，在我們這次已經訂了相關的規範。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:37.907000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:37.907000+08:00","text":"課幾趴？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:37.907000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:41.649000+08:00","text":"你跟我講課幾趴？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:41.929000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:42.649000+08:00","text":"課所得稅是不是？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:43.149000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:45.990000+08:00","text":"就是境內的網紅，當然用我們的所得稅的規定。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:46.271000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:46.291000+08:00","text":"綜所稅？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:47.391000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:47.972000+08:00","text":"對，用綜所稅來課。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:47.992000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:48.812000+08:00","text":"好，那境外呢？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:50.673000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:46:57.798000+08:00","text":"如果是境外的話，是從國內的……如果來源所得是我們國內的話，那他就是扣繳20%的稅。20%？對。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:46:59.519000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:03.682000+08:00","text":"當作外籍人士課，什麼時候開始生效？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:04.302000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:10.266000+08:00","text":"立即就生效，但是我們有輔導期，到明年的6月底。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:10.766000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:14.847000+08:00","text":"明年6月以後就課稅，你們都掌握了嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:14.847000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:16.868000+08:00","text":"現在開始課，我們現在就開始課，是有輔導期。","quality":0.722},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:16.868000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:19.949000+08:00","text":"請告訴我全部網紅有多少人被你課到？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:20.669000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:24.070000+08:00","text":"關於全部網紅的數量，是不是請賦稅署說明一下有沒有數量？","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:24.730000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:25.450000+08:00","text":"趕快，因為我時間有限，多少？","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:26.110000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:26.210000+08:00","text":"掌握了多少？","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"宋署長秀玲","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:26.810000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:31.352000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們現在正在輔導當中，陸續在發輔導函。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:31.472000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:31.752000+08:00","text":"多少人？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:32.012000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:32.272000+08:00","text":"你告訴我啦！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"宋署長秀玲","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:32.392000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:37.813000+08:00","text":"目前手上還沒有確切的數字，等我們輔導一段時間以後再跟委員報告。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:37.933000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:39.194000+08:00","text":"所以要接受你們輔導？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"宋署長秀玲","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:39.194000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:40.194000+08:00","text":"我們有去爬梳一些資料來做輔導。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:40.194000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:41.194000+08:00","text":"你應該也爬梳大概多少人了啊！","quality":0.077},{"speaker":"宋署長秀玲","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:41.194000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:42.194000+08:00","text":"目前我手上沒有最後的數字，因為他們還沒回報。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:42.194000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:43.194000+08:00","text":"好，請你們回去。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:40.434000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:40.734000+08:00","text":"請經濟部次長。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:40.734000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:41.734000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:47:40.734000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:47:42.115000+08:00","text":"年底臺美關稅能不能搞定？","quality":1},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:00.549000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:05.433000+08:00","text":"因為剩下沒幾天了，美國這邊應該有聖誕節的假期，我想可能……","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:05.593000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:06.654000+08:00","text":"年底沒辦法搞定？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:07.835000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:08.395000+08:00","text":"農曆年前能不能搞定？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:09.836000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:12.178000+08:00","text":"我想這個應該還會牽涉到美方他們的時間。","quality":0.611},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:12.919000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:21.485000+08:00","text":"那我就告訴你，現在等於川普巴著要見習近平，見面之前都不會搞定，這才是悲哀啦！","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:22.165000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:27.729000+08:00","text":"還有，他們要求我們營業額500億以上的去美國投資，有沒有這回事？目前……","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:28.570000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:29.030000+08:00","text":"有沒有這回事？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:29.210000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:29.891000+08:00","text":"告訴我，Yes or No？","quality":0.3},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:30.611000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:32.132000+08:00","text":"我不清楚這個部分。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:33.713000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:40.717000+08:00","text":"這個部分他們講的我們毫無招架能力，真的還不是跪美而已，跪美、舔美！","quality":0.828},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:41.917000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:55.655000+08:00","text":"完全就是他講什麼……你看，拖了這麼久，我們剛開始談的時候還是前四大、前五大開始跟美國談，結果到現在為止都沒有，要買武器也買了啊！","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:55.675000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:55.715000+08:00","text":"買了不來啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:55.735000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:57.616000+08:00","text":"一、兩百億美金的武器也不來，我們要的F-35也不給我們，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:57.616000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:58.496000+08:00","text":"結果到現在為止你都沒有答案。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:58.516000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:58.576000+08:00","text":"好，請你回座。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:58.676000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:58.917000+08:00","text":"我請教衛福部。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林次長靜儀","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:59.157000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:48:59.277000+08:00","text":"委員早。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:48:59.277000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:49:30.638000+08:00","text":"次長，你也當過立委、當次長，你是醫生，日內瓦宣言、醫生日內瓦宣言：不得因為宗教、國籍、種族還有政治不同而有所差別。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:49:31.378000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:49:45.491000+08:00","text":"結果現在賴清德總統在2023年選舉總統的時候說，你們要給他洗牙洗久一點，以前洗10分鐘那就洗20分鐘，洗腦他支持賴清德，連病人都不放過啊！","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:49:45.971000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:49:55.333000+08:00","text":"要洗腦，要告訴門診的醫生說，碰到像我們這樣在野黨立委的時候說要審總預算，怎麼會叫醫生來干預政治呢？","quality":0.844},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:49:55.694000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:49:58.074000+08:00","text":"連病人都不放過，怎麼會這樣子呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林次長靜儀","start":"2025-12-24T09:49:58.274000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:06.576000+08:00","text":"報告委員，幾個事情跟委員說明，第一個事情，醫師這邊當然不會因為病人的宗教、種族等等地位而對他的治療有所差異，但是我還是要拜託一下委員，預算非常的重要。","quality":0.779},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:06.576000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:07.576000+08:00","text":"預算非常重要，很簡單……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林次長靜儀","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:06.776000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:12.262000+08:00","text":"因為我們在公務預算裡面，我們對於護理師的權益都放在公務預算裡面。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:12.262000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:13.262000+08:00","text":"對，很簡單，只要你承諾，我剛剛已經講了，你剛剛都沒有認真聽……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林次長靜儀","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:12.722000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:22.694000+08:00","text":"這一次的新增計畫裡面包含了藥品韌性，以及我們很多的智慧醫療的部分，都在新興預算裡面，拜託委員支持我們的預算。","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:22.694000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:23.694000+08:00","text":"只要行政院、只要賴清德總統承諾300億加進來……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林次長靜儀","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:23.194000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:27.437000+08:00","text":"真的再一次強調，委員所關心我們非常多藥品韌性的部分、國內的藥品能夠自主化……","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:27.437000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:28.437000+08:00","text":"軍人加薪很重要，軍人加薪非常重要！","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:28.437000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:29.437000+08:00","text":"軍人加薪非常重要！","quality":0},{"speaker":"林次長靜儀","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:27.457000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:29.438000+08:00","text":"都在這次的計畫、都在新興計畫裡面，拜託委員能夠支持我們的預算，讓我們能夠來進行這個部分。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:29.438000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:30.438000+08:00","text":"軍人加薪非常重要！","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:30.438000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:31.438000+08:00","text":"好啦，請你停一下，我們非常支持、我們當然支持……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林次長靜儀","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:29.478000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:31.460000+08:00","text":"大家都非常關心我們整個醫療的健全，都在公務預算，我們的健檢也在這裡面。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:31.460000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:32.460000+08:00","text":"主席，請他不要講話，我沒有叫他講，他就不要講，好不好？","quality":0.045},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:32.460000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:33.460000+08:00","text":"我沒有叫你講話，你不要講。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林次長靜儀","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:31.700000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:34.221000+08:00","text":"我在跟委員報告，委員的時間很少，我一定要跟委員報告預算裡面這麼多重要的部分，拜託讓我們能夠執行。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:52.900000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:56.025000+08:00","text":"軍人加薪更重要，買這麼多武器要軍人！","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:57.407000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:57.908000+08:00","text":"你請回、你請回、你請回。","quality":0.444},{"speaker":"林次長靜儀","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:57.908000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:50:58.908000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，請委員支持預算，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:50:58.208000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:51:13.492000+08:00","text":"我當然支持預算，但是請你們支持軍人加薪、請你們支持軍人加薪，請你們支持憲政，中華民國是民主國家，依法行政這麼困難嗎？","quality":0.827},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:51:13.492000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:51:13.512000+08:00","text":"這麼困難嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:51:13.512000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:51:14.893000+08:00","text":"依法行政這麼困難嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:51:14.893000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:51:15.173000+08:00","text":"為什麼我們通過的你不編？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:51:15.173000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:51:15.513000+08:00","text":"可見不急嘛！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:51:16.074000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:51:17.395000+08:00","text":"你說今年影響3,000億、影響2,000億、影響4,000億，你們不急啊！","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:51:17.555000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:51:35.747000+08:00","text":"而且不要忘了這個政府沒有因為這樣而停擺，沒有像美國是關門、沒有像美國這樣關門而是繼續運作。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:51:35.807000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:51:36.148000+08:00","text":"我請教陸委會的副主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"梁副主任委員文傑","start":"2025-12-24T09:51:42.680000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:51:42.840000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:51:43.380000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:51:59.050000+08:00","text":"有人說吳豊山被請辭是因為謝長廷，因為謝長廷現在沒有位置，要給他臺日關係協會，所以把他擠掉、把蘇嘉全擠掉，蘇嘉全來坐吳豊山的位置，這個事情你要不要澄清一下？","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:51:59.630000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:00.191000+08:00","text":"是不是如此？","quality":1},{"speaker":"梁副主任委員文傑","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:01.391000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:06.194000+08:00","text":"關於人事的部分，就是由總統府在作業之中，作業完畢之後，我們會再跟大家報告。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:06.214000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:06.294000+08:00","text":"他確定被請辭不是嗎？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:06.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:06.815000+08:00","text":"吳豊山被請辭？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"梁副主任委員文傑","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:12.766000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:14.767000+08:00","text":"吳豊山董事長是辭職了沒有錯。對啊！","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:14.867000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:16.848000+08:00","text":"他被請辭，他自己講的，被請辭啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"梁副主任委員文傑","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:17.949000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:21.050000+08:00","text":"人事的部分是由總統府在作業，所以……","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:21.050000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:21.731000+08:00","text":"所以你也不知道？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:22.671000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:22.771000+08:00","text":"你不敢講？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:22.771000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:23.411000+08:00","text":"我們看到交通部，你看，今年的觀光逆差1,500億喔！","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:31.807000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:41.093000+08:00","text":"其實只要陸客來的話就統統解決了，副主委要不要講一下，你為什麼不開放陸客，讓陸客來多一點？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:41.093000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:44.695000+08:00","text":"這樣就達標，你們要達1,000萬人次的目標，現在達不到啊！","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"伍次長勝園","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:46.076000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:54.401000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，關於開放陸客，我想這部分還是必須考慮到我們國內的整個情境，現在大陸對我們……","quality":0.795},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:54.401000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:54.561000+08:00","text":"陸委會的關係啦！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:54.561000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:55.561000+08:00","text":"來，副主委講一下啦，副主委講一下啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"伍次長勝園","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:55.561000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:56.561000+08:00","text":"對我們的情況不是很友善，所以這部分應該再加以考慮啦。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2025-12-24T09:52:56.561000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2025-12-24T09:52:57.561000+08:00","text":"好，副主委講一下啦！","quality":0.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