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到去年的11萬市長你有發現問題的嚴重性嗎"},{"start":443.345,"end":464.331,"text":"好選部有發現問題的嚴重性嗎這個人數的確是在減少不是減少是減少得很恐怖啊沒錯吧沒錯吧以11萬跟45萬的這個平均來看就是馬政府45萬跟去年的11萬來比較的話只剩下四分之一不到沒錯吧"},{"start":467.154,"end":494.78,"text":"數字我們容我們再確認一下我要考選部拜託數字還是要搞得更清楚一點數字容我們再確認一下幾乎在我們在講那個公教年改問題的時候已經討論一整年了這數字已經大家已經討論一整年了所以說我覺得部長這邊數字部分還是要再掌握一下那事實就是什麼呢就是整個的報考人數大幅下降"},{"start":496.158,"end":513.456,"text":"那我想請教一下就是說你覺得大幅下降的原因是什麼如果是這幾年的話主要還是市場景氣把技術類客人拉走了這個我們有去檢視他不只技術類的那個報考的大幅下降還是以技術類客為主"},{"start":514.6,"end":526.555,"text":"其他的还是全面都在下降下降的幅度没有到那么大但技术类科下降的很激烈你要拿降的最多的来比当然是技术类降的最多后面也会跟你讲我告诉你最重要的原因是什么"},{"start":527.802,"end":543.517,"text":"除了掃紙化的因素經常我看到很多官員答詢就講掃紙化掃紙化當然是因素啦可是掃紙化進行那個降幅那個協率沒有現在公務人員吊的協率這麼高包括公務人員的福利待遇跟退休條件"},{"start":545.098,"end":560.284,"text":"這些都大不如前也讓公務員不像過去被認為是一個嚮往的職業那以前公務員他擁有穩定的薪資待遇年資的續薪制度以及包括退休保障所以他就算被剝奪組織公會罷工兼職這些勞動權益他也覺得是"},{"start":565.126,"end":592.139,"text":"能夠接受但是因為犧牲權力可以換來退休生活無虞這是一個所謂的價值選擇可是很抱歉近年來我覺得這些功能都在弱化當中所以我還是要特別強調一件事情我非常遺憾說今天行政院不是說恢復公教的退休保障到2018年以前的水準而是光停侃的這件事情到現在的態度就是不執行"},{"start":593.066,"end":604.817,"text":"然後要去釋憲我覺得真的是無視於我們今天人才整個公務體系人才大幅崩解的一個現象我也希望考選部能夠多多為我們公務員發聲以上 謝謝好 謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:46:30.029000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:46:30.109000+08:00","text":"有請運動部黃次長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-01-05T10:46:30.109000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:46:30.189000+08:00","text":"請黃次長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-01-05T10:46:30.189000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:46:30.209000+08:00","text":"委員，你好。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:46:30.229000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:46:30.349000+08:00","text":"次長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:46:30.369000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:46:31.069000+08:00","text":"運動部揭牌的時候，李洋部長曾經提出六大工作重點，你還記得第六項是什麼嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:46:58.081000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:47:14.307000+08:00","text":"我跟你說好了，加強兒童及青少年培育，從校園跟社區扎根，建立完整的人才培育系統，讓孩子們可以在運動中找到希望與實現夢想，這是第六項。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:47:14.307000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:47:24.631000+08:00","text":"現行體育人才的培養目前有很多都是從中小學的體育班開始，包括李洋部長也是小學五年級就讀體育班到高中畢業嘛？是。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:47:26.333000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:47:32.704000+08:00","text":"外界對於體育班有很多檢討的聲浪，次長認為現行制度有哪些問題需要改進呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-01-05T10:47:33.309000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:47:59.958000+08:00","text":"現行制度在過去一段時間，尤其是在越低層的、年齡比較小的學童，過度被強調運動的成績，導致於有些時候為了爭取成績，訓練的時間太長，而讓他們該要有的一般學習內容被剝奪掉了，這是現階段在社會上對於基層的體育班最大、最大關心的地方。","quality":0.873},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:48:01.378000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:48:41.015000+08:00","text":"事實上也像次長說的，為了了解臺灣體育班制度下運動員的真實處境，人本基金會去年有邀16位曾經是體育班的學生進行訪談調查，顯示目前的學生運動員普遍面臨過量訓練（剛剛次長有講到）、缺乏科學化支持、運動傷害頻發，以及被迫犧牲學習時間的處境；更令人憂心的是，很多受訪者經歷過一些教練的身心暴力、言語羞辱或者不合理體罰，甚至也有一些性平的事件陸續發生。","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:48:41.976000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:49:03.832000+08:00","text":"體育班的制度設計核心本來是想要為國爭光，但是現在過早將兒童推入高強度的專項訓練，有很多學生運動員在國中、高中就放棄學業，有些學生選擇體育班不完全是出於對運動的熱情，而變成是沒有其他選擇。","quality":0.644},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:49:04.973000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:49:15.921000+08:00","text":"在這樣的體育班制度的狀況之下，有些學生在追逐獎牌跟榮耀的同時，也付出健康跟學習人格受辱的巨大代價。","quality":0.696},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:49:16.101000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:49:26.748000+08:00","text":"對於這樣的狀況，我想問一下，體育班的制度要怎麼樣把剛剛講的問題加以澈底地解決？","quality":0.722},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:49:26.748000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:49:28.229000+08:00","text":"運動部與教育部要怎麼分工？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:49:30.571000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:49:37.495000+08:00","text":"有什麼具體的方式讓體育班學生能夠兼顧學業與運動專長，甚至解決比較偏軍事化管理可能的問題？","quality":0.738},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:49:38.816000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:49:41.258000+08:00","text":"對於這些問題不知道次長有什麼樣的想法呢？","quality":0.789},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-01-05T10:49:42.359000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:49:43.340000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-01-05T10:49:43.340000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:49:53.748000+08:00","text":"目前體育班的業務是在教育部，所以整體的推動會在教育部，但是運動部會持續跟教育部做分工跟溝通。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-01-05T10:49:54.749000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:50:19.297000+08:00","text":"以我們本身的想法是，我們希望小孩子在成長的過程當中不要太過於強調競技成績，但是我們要發展的是小孩子的運動能力，運動能力與競技成績是不一樣的，我們希望透過快樂的成長過程當中去具備這樣好的身體能力，未來有機會成為優秀選手的時候，再進入專項訓練。","quality":0.965},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-01-05T10:50:19.297000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:50:43.232000+08:00","text":"而在這個過程當中，他們的學習不要因為投入過長的訓練而導致學習受到阻礙，這是我們目前基本的立場，它是透過一個逐漸轉型的過程來達到這樣的理想，我們也希望小孩子的比賽盡量不要長時間，一次出去比賽三個禮拜、兩個禮拜，這樣出去比賽就會完全喪失學習的機會。","quality":0.974},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-01-05T10:50:43.232000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:50:55.203000+08:00","text":"所以在未來賽制的調整當中，我們會希望他留在住家附近，當天比完賽，當天就回家，隔一天早上還是乖乖回到學校去做一個學生該有的學習過程。","quality":0.983},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:50:56.022000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:50:56.763000+08:00","text":"好，非常謝謝次長，謝謝。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:50:58.563000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:02.686000+08:00","text":"現在請考選部劉孟奇部長。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:02.686000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:03.846000+08:00","text":"請劉部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:03.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:04.046000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:04.967000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:09.849000+08:00","text":"部長，我想請教一下，去年高普考總共多少人報考、錄取率是多少？","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:10.710000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:16.533000+08:00","text":"去年最後大概是五萬七千多人，錄取率大概接近15%吧！","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:19.094000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:22.536000+08:00","text":"大學畢業報考高考三級錄取率是多少？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:24.420000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:25.722000+08:00","text":"錄取率應該接近15%左右，15%到……","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:26.964000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:30.448000+08:00","text":"我這邊看到的是22.89%，大學畢業報考的高考三級……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:30.448000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:31.448000+08:00","text":"對，差不多。","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:31.029000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:32.210000+08:00","text":"我是講高考三級。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:32.210000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:38.699000+08:00","text":"我想請教一下部長，前年高普考總共多少人報考？","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:38.699000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:43.961000+08:00","text":"應該是超過六萬，六萬一吧！","quality":0.182},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:43.961000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:48.463000+08:00","text":"6萬7,508人，比起去年下降八千多人，對不對？對。","quality":0.588},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:51:50.464000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:51:59.750000+08:00","text":"高普考如果加上初等考試、特種考試、升等考試及軍人轉公務員考試，2024年報考公務人員的總數是多少？","quality":0.634},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:52:03.112000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:52:04.133000+08:00","text":"就是前年啦。大概20……","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:52:09.181000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:52:11.703000+08:00","text":"16萬啦，我看到的數據是16萬。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:52:11.703000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:52:14.346000+08:00","text":"沒關係，我們可能還會再把特考也算進來……","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:52:14.346000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:52:16.648000+08:00","text":"這應該很多媒體都有報導。","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:52:16.648000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-01-05T10:52:19.170000+08:00","text":"對、對、對。","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:52:19.170000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:52:19.831000+08:00","text":"去年是多少？","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:52:22.053000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:52:25.056000+08:00","text":"去年是15。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:52:26.457000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:52:28.519000+08:00","text":"奇怪，你的數字怎麼跟我的都不太一樣？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:52:28.519000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:52:31.942000+08:00","text":"我質詢人事長，他說是11萬。","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:52:33.171000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:52:37.073000+08:00","text":"我們把這些再加一下，再提供給委員，可以嗎？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:52:37.073000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:52:43.115000+08:00","text":"好、好、好，但是不管怎麼樣講，實際上你可以看到整個趨勢快速地往下掉嘛，對不對？是。","quality":0.735},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:52:43.515000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:53:02.167000+08:00","text":"我想請教您，您知道根據考選部的資料，2008到2015年馬政府8年任內舉辦公務人員考試平均每年多少人報考？45萬人。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:53:03.348000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:53:09.734000+08:00","text":"你知道蔡英文總統的8年，平均每年多少人報考？","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:53:11.656000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:53:17.120000+08:00","text":"委員，因為剛剛那個數字，可能裡面又有含到特考、專技等等，是不是我們再去確認一下？","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:53:17.921000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:53:19.783000+08:00","text":"好，沒關係，我講的是公務人員啦。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:53:19.783000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-01-05T10:53:20.783000+08:00","text":"不過現在公務人員的趨勢是減少沒有錯。","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:53:19.783000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:53:22.665000+08:00","text":"所以你剛剛可能講的是包括特考、專技的在裡面。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:53:22.765000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:53:24.807000+08:00","text":"對、對、對，沒關係，現在是有減少沒有錯。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:53:27.438000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:53:50.458000+08:00","text":"我告訴你，蔡英文政府是二十五萬三千多人，可是剛剛已經跟你講到，你看前年16萬，去年11萬，不管是從馬政府的45萬，到蔡政府的25萬、前年的16萬、去年的11萬，事實上，你有發現問題的嚴重性嗎？","quality":0.904},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:53:53.605000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:53:55.226000+08:00","text":"考選部有發現問題的嚴重性嗎？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:53:55.226000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:53:56.346000+08:00","text":"人數的確是有減少的趨勢。","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:53:57.066000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:54:03.808000+08:00","text":"不是減少，是減少得很恐怖，沒錯吧！","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:54:04.268000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:54:14.311000+08:00","text":"以11萬跟45萬的平均來看，馬政府45萬跟去年的11萬來比較的話，只剩下四分之一不到，沒錯吧！","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:54:17.154000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:54:18.834000+08:00","text":"數字容我們再確認一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:54:19.755000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:54:24.676000+08:00","text":"拜託考選部數字還是要搞得更清楚一點啦！","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:54:24.676000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:54:25.716000+08:00","text":"數字容我們再確認一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:54:26.796000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:54:38.058000+08:00","text":"這個已經討論……我們在講公教年改問題的時候，幾乎已經討論一整年了，這數字大家已經討論一整年了，我覺得部長對數字部分還是要再掌握一下啦！","quality":0.836},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:54:39.919000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:54:40.759000+08:00","text":"事實就是什麼呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:54:42.059000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:54:44.760000+08:00","text":"就是整個報考人數大幅下降嘛！","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:54:46.278000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:54:53.285000+08:00","text":"我想請教一下，你覺得大幅下降的原因是什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:54:53.285000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:54:59.292000+08:00","text":"如果是這幾年的話，主要還是市場景氣把技術類科的人拉走了，這個我們有去檢視它對應的科系……","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:54:59.532000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:55:02.935000+08:00","text":"不只技術類科報考大幅下降哦！","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:55:02.976000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:55:03.436000+08:00","text":"還是以技術類科為主。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:55:04.600000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:55:06.242000+08:00","text":"其他的還是全面都在下降。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"劉部長孟奇","start":"2026-01-05T10:55:06.663000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:55:09.927000+08:00","text":"下降的幅度沒有到那麼大，但技術類科下降得很激烈。","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:55:09.947000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:55:13.511000+08:00","text":"你要拿降得最多的來比，當然是技術類降最多，後面也會跟你講。","quality":0.692},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:55:15.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:55:28.872000+08:00","text":"我告訴你最重要的原因是什麼，除了少子化的因素，我經常看到很多官員答詢就講少子化，少子化當然是因素，可是少子化的降幅、斜率沒有現在公務人員報考人數掉的斜率這麼高啦！","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:55:30.474000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:56:02.990000+08:00","text":"包括公務人員的福利待遇跟退休條件都大不如前，也讓公務員不像過去被認為是一個讓人嚮往的職業，以前公務員擁有穩定的薪資待遇、年資的續薪制度，以及包括退休保障，所以就算被剝奪組織工會、罷工、兼職這些勞動權益，他們也覺得能夠接受，因為犧牲權利可以換來退休生活無虞，這是一個所謂的價值選擇嘛！","quality":0.954},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:56:02.990000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:56:06.551000+08:00","text":"可是很抱歉，近年來我覺得這些功能都在弱化當中。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:56:07.292000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:56:34.397000+08:00","text":"所以我還是要特別強調一件事情，非常遺憾今天行政院不是說恢復公教的退休保障到2018年以前的水準，而是光停砍的這件事情，到現在的態度就是不執行，然後要去釋憲，我覺得真的是無視於今天整個公務體系人才大幅崩解的現象，我希望考選部能夠多多為我們公務員發聲。","quality":0.991},{"speaker":"羅委員智強","start":"2026-01-05T10:56:34.397000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-01-05T10:56:34.797000+08:00","text":"以上，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-01-05T10:56:35.297000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-01-05T10:56:38.154143+08:00","text":"謝謝羅智強委員的詢答。","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-01-05T10:56:38.454143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-01-05T10:56:45.882714+08:00","text":"接下來，請最近訓練到身材很亮眼、要做國際巨星的黃國昌委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}