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人家都很相信你來 再來我一個問題我一直跟你講陶瓷廟大溪谷計畫我們職人科學研究第二期你們當然是適合計畫的人但是我常常叫你們出來跟我協調職人科學研究第二期大溪谷計畫國科會不敢當主管機關他怕說要拖地"},{"start":465.593,"end":488.243,"text":"這個國科會沒有擔當 只有給學士機構那些國科會我實在不放心因為為什麼 他們已經成立習慣在南部的開發都是用公有地台場的土地但是在北部沒有北部沒有我們要產生一個方法 方式來解決"},{"start":489.79,"end":506.337,"text":"我幫你擺脫整個變了 你都這樣不回應我看你是實在是做事的人不像做官的人我以為你做官應該要有什麼做事啊有啦 有在做事啊 現在都沒什麼工作會議啊 開那些協調會議啦我告訴你 我自己要求兩件"},{"start":513.2,"end":528.595,"text":"如果可以的話,我們不要國科會當主管機關,我們由經濟部當主管,你給我們報到行政院,我們就先來開花。不是這樣說,你協調的單位這樣就沒人要做事了嘛,三個人,靠水沒水好啊。"},{"start":536.621,"end":552.563,"text":"我只拜託你一項,你應該替我們去爭取,跟行政院說,引渡這個困難,國科會不會期間中說,也沒有那樣的人才,也沒有那樣的人力,乖乖的不會地方的協調。"},{"start":553.644,"end":578.367,"text":"因為那是屬於 國科會單位主管機關授權給苗栗政府開發他要30公頃50公頃的肉地 我們給他 談好價格給他這樣不跟事情會突破 不能說那裡不行 這裡不行要做多少人做什麼事情就是要突破困境 解決問題 才是做官的能手"},{"start":579.37,"end":605.668,"text":"財政真正能替百姓服務 我只拜託這兩項我會持續追蹤 要不然我開始幹掉啊你這個政府無能 這樣做這個問題沒辦法讓人改觀我跟你講我還要問一下 委員這要喊國科會你喊到國科會 國科會的態度很明顯嘛為什麼那麼怕 你不做別人可以做啊國科會我沒有辦法督導他啦怎麼沒有辦法 這個政府沒有辦法"},{"start":607.554,"end":616.833,"text":"我感覺這樣政府是無能的應該可以去協調怎麼講沒有辦法我們在法國安教我們也是要去一再加油三的協調"},{"start":618.928,"end":637.356,"text":"你這有誰想要來做什麼事情?我本來對你期望很高,今天我要繼續執行,但是我們的灶位站起來了。你看,今天穿著西裝黑衣,老命在微笑,叫我要下執行台,下次站久一點啦。好,謝謝。"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:12:54+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:12:55+08:00","text":"主席，首先有請國發會葉主委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T11:12:55+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:12:56+08:00","text":"請國發會葉主委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:12:54.710000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:12:58.252000+08:00","text":"委員早。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:13:07+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:13:07.120000+08:00","text":"葉主委好。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:13:17.877000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:13:54.397000+08:00","text":"首先有一個問題要請教你，就是我們國內的財經雜誌針對我們國內企業對於政府推動AI的部分進行調查，所有調查顯示，逾6成企業都知道現在政府在推動AI政策，但是大多數人對於政府推動AI的進度、方法及辦法並不是很熟悉，這是很重要的一個觀點，所以有3成對於政策都沒有辦法感受到。","quality":0.959},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:13:55.617000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:14:12.544000+08:00","text":"在AI硬體及軟體方面，9成的企業最關心的就是電力充足與否，請記得，9成的企業在關心我們的電力能否充足的使用。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:14:14.785000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:14:32.511000+08:00","text":"34%的業者認為AI人才不足是最大的挑戰，其中傳統產業情況是最嚴重的，包括高科技業，即使要投入的話，成本非常高、資料尚未系統化的問題也都存在。","quality":0.873},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:14:35.316000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:15:00.571000+08:00","text":"現在第一個問題要請教你，伊朗、美國、以色列已經發生戰爭，這個地緣政治很厲害，現在原油或是天然氣都是大漲，我們一般的資料說中油只能儲存14天，像現在這樣的狀況你們如何去應對？","quality":0.908},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:15:00.571000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:15:12.078000+08:00","text":"只有以高價去跟人家調度我們需要的天然氣，我相信我們油的存量應該夠，但是天然氣的存量不夠，你有沒有什麼應對措施？","quality":0.804},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:15:12.658000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:15:13.138000+08:00","text":"會不會到時候變成斷氣？不會！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:15:13.138000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:15:14.138000+08:00","text":"你要稍微思考一下，這很危險，如果再繼續打下去的話，我跟你說，世界會變成怎樣都不知道哦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:15:13.138000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:15:32.368000+08:00","text":"經濟部龔部長已經出來講說不會有斷氣這種現象，然後3月、4月也不會有，5月、6月也不會有，因為都有一直在做調度。","quality":0.356},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:15:32.388000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:15:36.150000+08:00","text":"這很危險，大家都很擔心、心驚膽跳，你不要到最後囊空如洗，天然氣揮發掉了，官員說話要實在啦！","quality":0.513},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:15:44.874000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:15:45.094000+08:00","text":"不會啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:15:45.414000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:15:47.855000+08:00","text":"因為經濟部都已經在協調中油、台電……","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:15:48.015000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:16:05.322000+08:00","text":"然後我想到一個問題，你現在推動AI的轉型是全民共識，但是你們宣導的力道非常弱，我看到報章雜誌都在寫你們的政績、要怎麼做，沒有幾個人看，但我會看啦，因為我要了解你，所以我一定要看。","quality":0.775},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:16:08.424000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:16:17.009000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們的AI新十大建設在1月經過行政院核定之後，我們在3月底、4月初會出一支影片。","quality":0.872},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:16:17.350000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:16:34.981000+08:00","text":"我跟你說，臺灣的媒體尤其那些電視臺、名嘴在講話，去叫他們做一件功德，你去跟他買時間，叫他們來說AI對臺灣的未來發展重要、不重要，大家會去聽，不然你只有這樣……我講的是做功德，不然有些都是胡言亂語啦！是！","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:16:36.322000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:16:45.927000+08:00","text":"叫他們做功德，回饋臺灣一下，把AI當成全民的共識，臺灣要推動這樣的計畫，臺灣才能轉型，永遠站在有利的競爭地位好不好？","quality":0.808},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:16:45.927000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:16:46.927000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:16:46.227000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:16:52.470000+08:00","text":"我們會加強廣宣，只是也要請委員支持，因為我們有一些廣宣的費用都一直沒有辦法通過。","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:16:52.470000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:17:12.485000+08:00","text":"再來，在你的任務裡面，除了五大信賴產業，最重要的就是推動AI新十大建設，你也有到韓國考察，認為AI對於國力躍升的關鍵性在於應用能否落地，這個很重要。","quality":0.851},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:17:12.485000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:17:14.567000+08:00","text":"是，應用落地。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:17:14.567000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:17:15.748000+08:00","text":"應用落地非常重要。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:17:17.029000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:17:23.894000+08:00","text":"我以前有跟你們說過目前的分工，軟體的話在數位部，百工百業在經濟部。","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:17:27.866000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:17:27.866000+08:00","text":"對，經濟部。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:17:28.346000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:17:29.908000+08:00","text":"你們國發會是主導單位。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:17:30.929000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:17:47.923000+08:00","text":"我跟你說，這裡面有偏差，我覺得你可以讓數位部專門去做打詐的軟體，如何去防、如何用各種方式去查到，因為所謂AI的產業裡面，落地的時候要跟實際再做配合。","quality":0.761},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:17:48.904000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:17:55.389000+08:00","text":"你在這裡有特別說到產業AI化、AI產業化，你說有智慧應用、關鍵技術還有數位基磐，我讀你的資料，要背的很多。","quality":0.596},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:17:56.129000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:18:28.306000+08:00","text":"你說AI要產業落地的話，現在作為我們堅實的後盾裡面，包括培育新世代人才、培力產業實作人才以及招攬專業的人才，而關鍵技術，你要曉得很重要的是，這裡面一定要去突破，不然我們的機器人沒有用。有！","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:18:29.107000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:18:39.827000+08:00","text":"一個是頭腦，包括NVIDIA還有AMD他們都在發明，這個我們臺灣要做是有困難的；第二個，關鍵的技術在哪裡？","quality":0.646},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:18:39.827000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:18:55.960000+08:00","text":"就是眼睛跟頭腦跟手腳，這要像人一樣靈活，這一套太重要了，所以我們機器人的部分就顯得很重要，像軍工、照護、產業等方面都在使用，這個技術就一定要拿到。","quality":0.646},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:18:57.781000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:19:07.436000+08:00","text":"當然人才很重要，技術要靠人才，所以我在這裡一直提到你們要實際的推展，尤其是百工百業在用。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:19:08.471000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:19:11.473000+08:00","text":"有，經濟部都有在做，經濟部推了很多。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:19:11.653000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:19:18.678000+08:00","text":"這個是以後臺灣最重要的部分，硬體的話臺灣大概很強，要來追有困難，但是在軟體的應用裡面真的要加強。","quality":0.682},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:19:18.678000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:19:21.600000+08:00","text":"有，經濟部都有在推AI試產線。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:19:21.600000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:19:26.663000+08:00","text":"不是啦，我講的是數位部裡面，那個軟體我跟你說沒有落地。","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:19:27.144000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:19:46.938000+08:00","text":"我現在再跟你說一下我了解的AI，懂AI的人不一定懂得技術，請記住這句話，懂AI的人不一定懂得技術，如果你只懂AI、不懂得產業的技術，我們AI的推動會很不順利，所以這個要突破。","quality":0.861},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:19:48.019000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:20:08.392000+08:00","text":"另外有一點非常重要，關於懂AI也懂得產業技術的人，他可能會擔心他個人、公司的競爭力，怕技術外流，於是都藏私，所以AI的落地運用你真的要想出一套好的辦法，這個是實地推展目前所遭遇的困難。","quality":0.821},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:20:10.436000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:20:12.457000+08:00","text":"這個我會跟數發部協調。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:20:12.457000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:20:15.759000+08:00","text":"我看你實在是個做事情的人，也老實，很相信你。好。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:20:17+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:20:42.274000+08:00","text":"再來一個問題，我一直跟你講桃竹苗大矽谷計畫，我們竹南科學園區是第二期，你們當然是審核計畫的人，但是我常常叫你們要出來幫我協調竹南科學園區第二期大矽谷計畫，國科會不敢當主管機關，它怕要找出土地來，國科會沒有擔當，只有給學術機構。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:20:46.616000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:20:50.078000+08:00","text":"國科會我實在不放心，為什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:20:50.078000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:21:07.552000+08:00","text":"他們已經沉於習慣，在南部的開發都是用公有地、台糖的土地，但是在北部沒有，北部沒有土地，我們要產生一個方式來解決，我拜託你好幾次，你都這樣不回應。","quality":0.828},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:21:07.552000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:21:08.552000+08:00","text":"沒有啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:21:07.552000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:21:13.294000+08:00","text":"我看你實在是做實事的人，不像做官的人……","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:21:13.294000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:21:14.294000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們有開協調會……","quality":0.083},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:21:14.255000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:21:15.475000+08:00","text":"我在想你做官應該也要會做事情。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:21:15.835000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:21:16.616000+08:00","text":"有啦，我們有在做事情……","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:21:16.716000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:21:17.136000+08:00","text":"你說有，現在都沒有聽到……","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:21:18.136000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:21:19.217000+08:00","text":"我們有開工作會議，還有開協調會議。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:21:19.397000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:21:36.389000+08:00","text":"我跟你說，我只要求兩件事，如果可以的話，我們不要國科會當主管機關，由經濟部當主管，你給我們報到行政院，我們自行來開發。","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:21:36.389000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:21:37.389000+08:00","text":"委員，這不是我國發會可以決定的事……","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:21:36.449000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:21:40.553000+08:00","text":"不是這樣說，你是協調的單位，這樣就沒人要做事情了嘛！","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:21:40.673000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:21:42.394000+08:00","text":"三個人挑水沒水喝。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:21:50.621000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:22:06.563000+08:00","text":"我只拜託你一項，你應該替我們去爭取，跟行政院說他們遇到的困難，國科會不會區段徵收，也沒有那樣的人才，也沒有那樣的人力，乖乖的，也不會做地方的協調。","quality":0.831},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:22:07.644000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:22:08.605000+08:00","text":"因為那是屬於科學園區……","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:22:09.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:22:26.802000+08:00","text":"不然你還有一樣辦法，國科會當主管機關，授權給苗栗縣政府開發，它要30公頃、50公頃的肉地，我們給它，談好價格給它，這樣事情才會有突破，不要說那個也不行，這個也不行，這樣要請你們當官的人做什麼事情？","quality":0.651},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:22:27.683000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:22:34.931000+08:00","text":"就是要突破困境，解決問題才是做官的能手，才是真正能替百姓服務。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:22:34.931000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:22:42.536000+08:00","text":"我只拜託這兩件，我會持續追蹤，不然我開始罵人了，你這個政府無能，遇到這個問題沒辦法解決。","quality":0.795},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:22:44.377000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:22:45.558000+08:00","text":"我跟你講，我還要問下去……","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:22:45.678000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:22:48.720000+08:00","text":"委員，這要跟國科會……","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:22:48.720000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:22:53.283000+08:00","text":"你談到國科會，國科會的態度很明顯，為什麼那麼怕？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:22:53.804000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:22:54.864000+08:00","text":"你不做，別人可以做。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:22:55.024000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:22:56.806000+08:00","text":"國科會我沒有辦法督導它啦。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:22:57.266000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:22:57.766000+08:00","text":"什麼沒有辦法！","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:22:58.947000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:22:59.647000+08:00","text":"這個政府沒有辦法？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:23:01.554000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:23:06.223000+08:00","text":"我覺得這樣政府太無能了，應該可以去協調，怎麼講沒有辦法？","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:23:06.404000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:23:10.833000+08:00","text":"我們服務案件也是要一而再再而三的協調。","quality":0.611},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:23:12.928000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:23:13.829000+08:00","text":"你這個也是想來做官的，看能不能……沒有！","quality":0.312},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:23:13.829000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:23:16.190000+08:00","text":"委員，我……","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:23:16.190000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:23:17.650000+08:00","text":"我本來對你期望很高。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-16T11:23:17.870000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:23:31.356000+08:00","text":"今天我還要繼續質詢，但是我們召委站起來了，你看今天穿著西裝很帥，面帶微笑叫我要下質詢臺了，下次站久一點，謝謝。","quality":0.755},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:23:31.856000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:23:32.998857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T11:23:33.298857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:23:41.013143+08:00","text":"謝謝我們陳超明委員精彩的質詢，請主委先回座，謝謝陳超明委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T11:23:41.313143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:23:44.456000+08:00","text":"下一位質詢請張嘉郡委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}