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本席希望今天得到的"},{"start":536.667,"end":561.947,"text":"我知道剛剛大家接受到這個一個執行我們知道大家都非常非常的努力也很盡力啦對於這個電力的供給呢大家都有在做努力那麼本期希望能夠提醒我們產業還有我們民眾很關心的民生用電都經不起一次大規模的一個限電我們希望我們大家都能夠做好準備這樣可以做到吧"},{"start":564.755,"end":574.815,"text":"好那謝謝大家那我今天的執行到這好謝謝蔡春秋委員請官員回座接下來有請謝龍介委員質詢"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:26:39.382000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:26:43.104000+08:00","text":"主席、所有的同仁以及所有的官員，大家午安。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:26:43.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:26:45.805000+08:00","text":"有請陳主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T12:26:45.805000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T12:26:47.989000+08:00","text":"請陳主委上臺，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:26:47.989000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:26:49.890000+08:00","text":"就現在的國際局勢，在俄烏戰爭中，烏克蘭的核電廠多次面臨砲擊及斷電的風險，這為全球敲響了核設施的危機。","quality":0.826},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:27:16.320000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:27:40.288000+08:00","text":"我們再來看看中東的局勢，美國跟伊朗的關係非常緊張，直接衝擊到能源進口的穩定性，在這種能源供給不確定以及核安風險提高的雙重壓力下，政府現在考慮要讓核三延役重啟。","quality":0.878},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:27:43.910000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:28:12.041000+08:00","text":"主委，我必須提醒你，能源安全固然很重要，但核能的安全管理以及核廢料的終極處理是絕對不能打折的，我們也付不起這樣的代價，我們不能因為怕缺電，就去賭那萬分之一的風險。","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:28:16.222000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:28:32.783000+08:00","text":"上週經濟部龔部長在總質詢的時候，也回答核三廠已經啟動自主的安全檢查，如果汰換設備不多的話，那麼啟用的時間可以縮短嗎？","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:28:33.023000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:28:40.427000+08:00","text":"核安會在審查的過程當中，要如何符合法規跟安全要件？","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:28:41.227000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:28:47.851000+08:00","text":"在安全優先的前提之下，審查的時程有可能加快嗎？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"陳主任委員明真","start":"2026-03-18T12:28:50.058000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:29:07.586000+08:00","text":"如果需要汰換的零件不多，然後台電準備的報告非常完整，而且現場視察狀況良好，各方面條件都很好的話，當然審查時間可以縮短。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:29:11.608000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:29:26.350000+08:00","text":"剛剛前面的委員也都一直在問期程，如果在這樣的條件下，那麼大概的期程需要多久？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳主任委員明真","start":"2026-03-18T12:29:27.971000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:29:40.017000+08:00","text":"以前曾經評估過，可能時間點落在2028年，但還是要看具體的檢查報告才能做最後判定。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:29:42.438000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:29:46.420000+08:00","text":"那還是需要一段時間的等待。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:29:47.840000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:30:17.289000+08:00","text":"本席再次強調用電的需求是有時間性的，而且也很具急迫性，本席也希望核安會跟台電能夠密切合作，在確定安全的前提之下，能夠儘快開始重啟的過程，我想這是全民期待的，我們的用電一定要確保是沒有問題的，可以嗎？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"陳主任委員明真","start":"2026-03-18T12:30:17.289000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:30:17.530000+08:00","text":"可以的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:30:19.470000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:31:06.119000+08:00","text":"我再請問陳主委，歐盟執委會主席本月10日在法國巴黎召開核能峰會，開場的時候就說近日的伊朗戰爭顯示歐洲放棄可靠、價格合理、低碳排的核能是一個錯誤的戰略，法國總理馬克宏在這次的峰會中也承認核能是兼顧能源主權跟脫碳的關鍵是不容忽略的，請問陳主委您的看法呢？","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"陳主任委員明真","start":"2026-03-18T12:31:09.165000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:31:19.132000+08:00","text":"核能安全是核安會最關心的問題，對於任何申請案件，我們必須確保核電安全，然後才能讓它運作。","quality":0.775},{"speaker":"陳主任委員明真","start":"2026-03-18T12:31:21.114000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:31:28.720000+08:00","text":"至於其他的議題，包括能源的配比問題，經濟部會負責這方面的判斷。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:31:36.215000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:31:46.323000+08:00","text":"我們從這個峰會來看，全球都認為核能是非常非常需要的，這是不能否認的吧！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳主任委員明真","start":"2026-03-18T12:31:47.550000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:31:50.352000+08:00","text":"很多國家是這樣認為。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:31:50.352000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:32:29.884000+08:00","text":"我覺得能源的選擇不只是電力的供給無虞，同時也要兼顧穩定跟安全，更不能夠建築在犧牲民眾健康跟犧牲環境條件之上，其實在去年核三延役公投的時候，全國人民就對政府有很高度的期待，但我們覺得很遺憾的是政府沒有聽到民眾的聲音，所以今天才要再來做重啟的計畫。","quality":0.896},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:32:37.439000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:32:51.830000+08:00","text":"最後我要請教賴次長。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-03-18T12:32:51.830000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T12:32:52.830000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:32:51.830000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:33:22.394000+08:00","text":"賴次長，我知道你是水利專家，中北部有部分水庫儲水已經跌到三成，國人很擔心臺灣的水情惡化，尤其是在7、8月的時候，甚至5、6月的時候都可能有缺水的問題，我們也有接到科學園區廠商的反映，他們擔心會缺水。","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:33:23.415000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:33:44.294000+08:00","text":"我想請教賴次長，你過去長期在水利署服務，同時也是一個水利專家，我要請問水情如果惡化對於發電的影響，在今年中東戰火影響能源供應之下，如果今年發生乾旱的情況，這對於電力的供應應該會有很大的衝擊。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-03-18T12:33:50.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:34:16.784000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員關心這個議題，每年到枯水期的末端，大家對這個問題都會很關心，如委員所說的，比如在雲林地區，我們就透過……總統上個禮拜也有到這裡來，我們現在有一個珍珠串的計畫，把濁幹線串接起來，這個部分對於供水是有幫助的，另外雲林的離島工業區也有海淡廠，這對供水是有幫忙的。","quality":0.908},{"speaker":"賴次長建信","start":"2026-03-18T12:34:16.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:34:52.012000+08:00","text":"至於委員你所問的這兩個問題，雖然現在在枯水期的末端，我們呼籲大家除了要節水之外，對於兩個主要的電力供應水庫，比如日月潭水庫和德基水庫，我們都密切監視它的水情發展，到目前為止，台電的備轉容量率都有在一定的範圍內，而且我們依照正常的排程，對於水情應變的部分，在禮拜一經濟部也成立了應變小組，關於委員的指導，事實上我們都會緊盯著台電和水利署去做好相關的準備。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:34:54.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:35:01.936000+08:00","text":"我們希望能夠未雨綢繆，不要發生像去年那麼大的災害。","quality":0.739},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:35:02.717000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:35:43.755000+08:00","text":"水跟電都是民生基本的需求，更是臺灣產業──尤其是高科技產業的必要資源，所以本席希望今天能夠得到一個答案，從剛剛的質詢當中，我知道大家都非常努力，也非常盡力，對於電力的供給，大家都有在努力，但本席還是要提醒你們，包括我們的產業以及民眾很關心的民生用電都禁不起一次大規模的限電，我們希望大家都能夠做好準備，這樣可以做到吧！好。","quality":0.804},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-18T12:35:44.737000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:35:46.641000+08:00","text":"謝謝大家，我今天的質詢到這裡結束，謝謝。","quality":0.588},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T12:35:49.647000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:35:52.432000+08:00","text":"謝謝蔡春綢委員，請官員回座。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T12:35:53.153000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:35:53.815000+08:00","text":"接下來有請謝龍介委員質詢。","quality":1}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}