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因為大家都在這邊今天一早上我聽到幾位在野黨對行政院的一個質詢真的是覺得其實面對國際的變局我們自家人不分朝野應該要團結一致"},{"start":33.227,"end":57.623,"text":"這個鄉間和太極我要先首先先向行政院一個大大的一個肯定就是因為國際的這個局勢大變那我們呢這個對於這個油電是民生產業最關心的一件事因為他關心了民生的物價所以呢我記得在上次的質詢我有請行政院要積極的馬上召開"},{"start":58.503,"end":79.143,"text":"物價的穩定小組那也剛剛聽到院長有提到現在的物價穩定小組行政院每週開會就是緊盯著這個物價是否穩定那第一件事我在基層聽到了對政府一個大大的一個肯定是在於油價的緩漲"},{"start":81.426,"end":94.285,"text":"我看到新聞有寫到政府主動吸收了75%的漲幅來協助中油也能夠穩定物價也在第一時間電價是動漲的這兩件事情是政府"},{"start":97.779,"end":120.128,"text":"第一個即時第二個馬上有魄力的決定能夠讓民生有感讓物價穩定這個要先給行政院一個肯定但是我們的社會大眾還是期許我們行政院還要再進一步的盤點除了油跟電我最近接到"},{"start":121.208,"end":148.215,"text":"台中是機械還有工具機精密製造的一個非常完整的產業聚落過去這幾年來有因為國際局勢的不穩定還有一些景氣的問題本來就很艱辛在經營現在當然碰到台美關稅我們談了一個好結果雖然在上代美國確定不過基層的產業是對政府有信心的"},{"start":148.855,"end":172.736,"text":"但是又碰到中東的戰火現在的這個所謂的假存這個對這個我們的產業鏈來講是重要的一個製程重要的一環那我也感謝經濟部在接到這個台灣機械工業同業工會以及鑄造工會以及本席的一個陳情跟拜託請求之下部長是會"},{"start":173.777,"end":192.389,"text":"提一下現在呢對於機械工會跟鑄造工會基層產業裡面所謂的工業用的甲醇的存量以及調度的問題來部長謝謝委員反映這個民間他們的需要那剛才講機械工會跟那個"},{"start":193.863,"end":220.233,"text":"鑄造工會他們因為在過程當中需要有一個鍍膜然後脫膜的狀況所以需要一個甲醇那目前來講的話原先來講都沒有缺嘛但是現在因為中東戰事的關係是有一些缺了那當然委員是希望說我們先從中油來那中油他存的這個甲醇存量是比較少的因為他只是摻那個汽油讓汽油穩定來做發"},{"start":222.463,"end":231.406,"text":"但是我們也像民間這個名稱我就不好意思講但是有兩家公司他願意因為他長期"},{"start":231.983,"end":260.353,"text":"進的量比較大願意提供一部分出來那我們現在也再整合兩邊工會剛剛駐造工會跟機械工會整合起來看看他們需求量有多少跟他們供應端來對接這個我們已經在做了好 部長再拜託我為什麼要讓院長知道因為呢除了民生要顧產業要顧那產業碰到這個國際的局勢大變跟中東的戰火確實有一些原物料大幅的第一個"},{"start":261.233,"end":288.769,"text":"價格高漲第二個調貨困難所以呢為了不讓我們國內的產業的供應鏈斷鏈我希望政府也要成立了相關的因應的小組那如何協助各產業在原物料也好在工業用的相關的這些要盤點的一些產業所用的這些必需品我們是不是可以呢能夠成立小組積極的來跟"},{"start":290.95,"end":316.407,"text":"各產業工會來集中協調我們能夠提供穩定產業鏈的一個完整跟穩定的供應這個是行政院這也是我們政府必須做的產業鏈一旦斷鏈那影響的就是民生經濟昨天我也自己開了一個會就是我們相關的包括產業署等等還有能源署開會以後呢"},{"start":316.772,"end":344.275,"text":"我們盤點了十項比較重要的可能這個原物料的部分現在他的這個供需狀況那我們也可以一一的包括我們上游的供應商還有下游的需求方了解現在的這個供需狀況那短期間看起來供給是比較沒有問題的但是價格的確是有微幅的調漲但是我們現在做的方法還是分成幾個部分供的部分供需的部分"},{"start":345.327,"end":368.842,"text":"去說服的這些上游的就是說出口的部分是暫時比較少優先供應給國內來這個部分那另外一個價格的部分因為我們知道說他成本價格現在國際間比較透明那如果價格要漲的話是不是要合理化不要過漲或等等的一些情況那我們也提醒下游的部分不要做囤積這個我們會查查"},{"start":370.651,"end":376.709,"text":"再來就是說我們會幫忙在國際上調貨這個部分然後我們也會公布一個"},{"start":377.88,"end":404.719,"text":"一個電話號碼如果有任何比如下游你需要原料沒有的情況下可以讓我們知道我們來居中協調一個單一窗口可以讓產業來直接向政府請求協助因為剛剛行政院我們卓院長有回答其他委員說這個油氣各國都在搶那台灣跟各國都保持友好的關係所以我們得以在國際上調度油氣"},{"start":405.72,"end":432.593,"text":"那能夠確保短期內甚至兩三個月內不會斷油斷氣我也希望我們在產業的部分我們經濟部也要第一個不僅僅是這個單一窗口第二個我們一定要成立一個跨部會的整合小組能夠積極的來協助產業所需要的各個原物料的一個供應以及你剛剛提到的調貨因為各國也都在搶"},{"start":433.954,"end":457.944,"text":"第三個價格因為搶貨所以一定會有價格的波動那如何是合理化的如何是透明化的可以穩定我們的產業鏈不至於斷鏈我覺得這是很重要的院長我會提出這個問題是希望你關心我們中南部的產業鏈造就了在地廣大的勞工市民朋友們"},{"start":459.124,"end":486.752,"text":"所以我們政府是有義務也有責任一定要好好的穩定民生產業謝謝委員長期關心各個產業尤其是我們中部地區精密製造的機械的產業我們已經從大宗的物資從租稅優惠我們已經延長了時間那剛剛部長所提的就對現在幾項比較緊張的幾項這個原物料我們設定的原則是上游不漲下游不屯"},{"start":487.895,"end":503.44,"text":"我們還有調度的窗口用這幾項來把它現在的秩序盡量把它平穩下來好 謝謝院長那因為剛剛提到民生產業物價波動等等要穩定最近大家在談的就是能源的問題那我剛剛還聽到有核武我聽到這兩個字有點驚嚇到"},{"start":508.981,"end":525.873,"text":"核四在馬英九時代封存現有最近這幾天在談的核二核三重啟評估我還是要問一下院長的態度我們當然是依法依規來行政但是也必須在核安無虞 安全是第一"},{"start":526.593,"end":548.11,"text":"合肺有解社會共識的三大前提這個專業務實才是我們穩定向前的一個最重要的一個依據但是最終我們還是要確保全民的民生產業的一個供電穩定那院長您再一次的宣示一下這個重啟評估我們行政院的態度是什麼"},{"start":548.561,"end":576.193,"text":"安全供電無虞是政府對人民以及對產業的責任同時也是台灣對全世界的責任所以我們勇敢的一定會把這個事情落實下來那不僅是核能的三原則核安核廢以及共識這個三原則不變我們還有另外一個不變是持續發展二次能源轉型不變我們要持續發展多元的綠能深度節能科技儲能還要強化電網韌性"},{"start":577.893,"end":595.639,"text":"這個二次能源的轉型也是不變這兩個不變是前提另外在程序上現在台電已經在自主安全檢查那麼在這個禮拜這個月底又要送出這個再運轉計畫送出之後第二個程序是核安會必須審慎的召集所有的專家來進行審慎的評估"},{"start":598.16,"end":614.459,"text":"那評估之後自主安全檢查到底他所有設備老化到什麼程度太舊換新什麼時間可以完成以及動用的經費有多少才會有一個具體那治安運轉計畫通過整個之後他才能夠進入到下一個程序所以目前只是在程序的最開頭而已"},{"start":615,"end":630.079,"text":"所以未來的程序還有一段路要走那我們還是說第一個講求的是安全必須安全確定無虞第二個程序的過程依照現在的速度能夠讓它持續的有效率的進行那目前的整個進度到這個程度"},{"start":631.619,"end":648.108,"text":"對 院長我覺得這個要說清楚而且要公開透明的讓國人知道我們願意重啟評估但後面還有程序最重要是依法依規而且三大前提安全 合費遊解 社會共識"},{"start":649.008,"end":667.882,"text":"我覺得三大前提還是在這裡同時我們對於二次能源轉型還是持續推動綠能還是我們未來的重點的一個能源政策之一所以我們第一個能源政策是多元評估多元推動但是我們要確保穩定供電因為為什麼"},{"start":668.903,"end":681.119,"text":"接下來賴總統跟我們行政院宣示的未來AI人工智慧 算力產業我相信需要用電所以多元的備用能源都必須納入考量"},{"start":682.113,"end":704.487,"text":"我們宣示什麼台灣要AI新十大建設再加上最近黃仁勳提出的AI五成蛋糕論其中最底層的一層就是能源所以我相信我們行政院也是看到了這個未來台灣的下一個世代的一個產業叫做AI產業AI新十大建設所以我們必須要"},{"start":705.347,"end":725.438,"text":"多元評估多元推動那供電穩定是最基礎這個我相信大家都不能否認而且呢也認為台灣下一個世代我們的AI產業該如何的與世界共同來推進這是台灣現在目前最具優勢的一個推進產業之一對不對院長"},{"start":726.144,"end":744.416,"text":"也就是因為台灣佔據這樣關鍵的地位在產業尤其在高科技產業所以我們用這樣的有力的基礎要取得世界各國跟我們做更多的協助以及互助目前我們是朝這個方向真是有效的在進行也比較容易得到各國的支持"},{"start":745.796,"end":770.612,"text":"基於院長這樣子的一個回答跟指出的方向我就要為我們中部來爭取因為卓院長您去年有拍板釘案中部要成為全球領先智慧的製造中心三個新核心產業加速矽光子光學設計及模組開發要帶動我們中部產業的發展核心一台積電有在中科投資"},{"start":771.512,"end":787.126,"text":"甚至現在要加碼投資要帶動先進的一個製程先進的封裝的一個部落第二個核心美光也在中科投資而且也在擴廠成為核心發展高階記憶體的產業鏈第三個核心"},{"start":790.429,"end":807.246,"text":"漢翔航太產業要轉型甚至要跟軍工產業並行要以漢翔為中心打造一個無人機的飛鴻供應鏈這三大核心我記得是卓院長去年拍板定案的我相信台中"},{"start":808.007,"end":831.042,"text":"非常有本錢因為我們的精密製造本來就全世界都知道而且供應鏈的完整效率的提供打造產品甚至輸出也是全世界肯定的我們也更有本事來配合中央的規劃來發展但是院長除了拍板定案之外我們需要資源院長我們可以怎麼樣給台中資源"},{"start":831.667,"end":852.044,"text":"好 謝謝委員台中是我們在全國六大區域產業生活圈當中設定為精密智慧新核心它本來就是精密製造我們要把智慧科技加進去讓它成為精密智慧新核心在未來幾年我們現在初步匡列的預算有超過八千億在這個精密智慧新核心底下"},{"start":852.524,"end":878.175,"text":"所以它帶動的就是剛剛幾個幾大核心新的全數的發展比方說過幾天美光又會在中部地區有新的晶圓廠又要落成又要開始所以這個就會一直帶動世界的大廠進到這個地方來那加上我們原來的傳統產業讓它升級甚至我們的農業也讓它成為智慧農業那這個部分再加上整個中部地區一個智慧的升級"},{"start":879.09,"end":903.631,"text":"那它真的可以成為台灣的一個新的核心在桃竹苗大溪谷與大南灣新溪谷帶動整個台灣整個西部走廊的一個發展院長你這套說法我幫你整理了一下下一個第一個我們除了台積電除了美光我們事實上整個產業鏈分布在中部地區尤其在台中第二個光學產業也在台中"},{"start":904.963,"end":905.103,"text":"好 謝謝院長"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:30:25.329000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:30:26.591000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，我們請卓院長。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-24T10:30:26.711000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:30:26.912000+08:00","text":"請卓院長備詢。","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-24T10:30:37.506000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:30:37.766000+08:00","text":"何委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:30:38.747000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:30:39.848000+08:00","text":"卓院長好，辛苦了。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-24T10:30:40.169000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:30:40.829000+08:00","text":"不會，為大家在努力。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:30:41.170000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:30:58.467000+08:00","text":"今天一早上我聽到幾位在野黨委員對行政院的質詢，真的覺得面對國際的變局，我們自家人應該要不分朝野團結一致，相煎何太急。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:30:59.508000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:31:32.232000+08:00","text":"我首先要給行政院一個大大的肯定，因為國際局勢大變，油電價格是民生產業最關心的一件事，因為它關係到民生物價，所以我記得在上次來質詢，我有請行政院要積極的馬上召開物價穩定小組，剛剛也聽到院長有提到，現在的物價穩定小組，行政院每週開會……是的。","quality":0.898},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:31:32.232000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:31:35.775000+08:00","text":"就是緊盯著物價是否穩定。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:31:36.896000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:31:44.143000+08:00","text":"第一件事我在基層聽到的，要給政府一個大大的肯定是在於油價的緩漲。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:31:46.426000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:32:21.926000+08:00","text":"我看到新聞有寫到，政府主動吸收了75%的漲幅來協助中油，也能夠穩定物價；同時電價也在第一時間凍漲，這兩件事情是政府，第一個及時；第二個馬上有魄力的決定，能夠讓民生有感讓物價穩定，這個要先給行政院一個肯定，但是我們社會大眾還是期許，行政院還要再進一步的盤點。","quality":0.948},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:32:21.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:33:05.626000+08:00","text":"除了油跟電，我最近接到陳情，臺中是機械還有工具機精密製造一個非常完整的產業聚落，過去這幾年來，因為國際局勢不穩定，還有一些有景氣的問題，本來就很艱辛在經營，現在碰到臺美關稅，我們談了一個好結果，雖然尚待美國確定，不過基層產業是對政府有信心的，但是又碰到中東的戰火，現在所謂的甲醇，對於我們的產業鏈來講是重要製程的一環。","quality":0.945},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:33:05.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:33:29.164000+08:00","text":"我也感謝經濟部，在接到臺灣機械工業同業公會以及鑄造公會以及本席的陳情跟拜託、請求之下，部長是不是提一下，現在對於機械公會跟鑄造公會基層產業裡面所謂工業用甲醇的存量以及調度的問題？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:33:29.164000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:33:31.626000+08:00","text":"來，部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-24T10:33:31.626000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:33:34.968000+08:00","text":"是，謝謝委員反映民間的需要。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-24T10:33:36.109000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:33:44.905000+08:00","text":"剛才講的機械公會跟鑄造公會，他們因為在過程當中需要有一個鍍膜然後脫膜的狀況，所以需要甲醇。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-24T10:33:46.506000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:34:05.193000+08:00","text":"目前來講的話，原先來講都沒有缺嘛，但是現在因為中東戰事的關係是有一些缺，當然委員是希望我們先從中油來，但中油的甲醇庫存量是比較少的，因為它只是用來摻入汽油，讓汽油穩定。","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-24T10:34:07.463000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:34:30.368000+08:00","text":"但是我們也向民間企業，企業的名稱我就不好意思講了，但是有兩家公司願意，因為他長期進的量比較大，願意提供一部分出來，我們現在也在整合兩個公會，將剛剛講的鑄造公會跟機械公會整合起來，看看他們需求量有多少，跟他們供應端來對接，這部分我們已經在做了。","quality":0.838},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:34:30.708000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:34:31.988000+08:00","text":"好，部長，再拜託。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:34:31.988000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:34:33.589000+08:00","text":"我為什麼要讓院長知道？","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:34:34.109000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:35:19.853000+08:00","text":"因為除了民生要顧，產業也要顧，那產業碰到國際局勢大變跟中東的戰火，確實有一些原物料大幅的第一個價格高漲；第二個調貨困難，所以為了不讓我們國內產業的供應鏈斷鏈，我希望政府也要成立相關的因應小組，如何協助各產業在原物料也好，在工業用相關要盤點的一些產業所用的必需品，我們是不是能夠成立小組，積極地在各產業公會居中協調？","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:35:19.853000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:35:34.002000+08:00","text":"我們能夠提供產業鏈一個完整跟穩定的供應，這個是行政院也是我們政府必須做的，產業鏈一旦斷鏈，那影響的就是民生經濟。","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-24T10:35:34.002000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:35:55.783000+08:00","text":"昨天我自己也開了一個會，就是我們相關的包括產業署還有能源署等等，在開會以後，我們盤點了10項比較重要的，可能原物料的部分現在的供需狀況，我們也跟上游的供應商，還有下游的需求方一一了解現在的供需狀況。","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-24T10:35:56.024000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:36:33.062000+08:00","text":"短期間看起來，供給是比較沒有問題的，但是價格的確是有微幅的調漲，但是我們現在做的方法還是分成幾個部分，供的部分、供需的部分，我們去說服了這些上游的，就是說出口的部分是暫時比較少，優先供應給國內；另外一個是價格的部分，因為我們知道成本價格現在國際間也比較透明，如果價格要漲的話，是不是要合理化、不要過漲或等等的一些情況，我們也提醒下游的部分不要做囤積，這個我們會查察。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-24T10:36:35.651000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:36:49.885000+08:00","text":"再來，我們會幫忙在國際上調貨，然後我們也會公布一個電話號碼，如果有任何比如說下游有需要原料，但在沒有的情況下，可以讓我們知道，我們來居中協調。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:36:49.885000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:36:50.846000+08:00","text":"一個單一窗口？","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-24T10:36:50.846000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-24T10:36:51.846000+08:00","text":"對、對、對，沒有錯。","quality":0},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:36:51.326000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:36:55.309000+08:00","text":"可以讓產業直接向政府請求協助？","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-24T10:36:55.309000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-24T10:36:56.309000+08:00","text":"對、對、對。","quality":0},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:36:55.950000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:37:17.563000+08:00","text":"因為剛剛行政院卓院長有回答其他委員說，油、氣各國都在搶，臺灣跟各國都保持友好的關係，所以我們得以在國際上調度油、氣，能夠確保短期內，甚至兩、三個月內不會斷油、斷氣。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:37:17.563000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:37:53.560000+08:00","text":"我也希望我們在產業的部分，我們經濟部第一個，不僅僅是這個單一窗口；第二個，我們一定要成立一個跨部會的整合小組，能夠積極的來協助產業所需要的各個原物料的供應，以及你剛剛提到的調貨，因為各國也都在搶；第三個，價格，因為搶貨，所以一定會有價格的波動，如何是合理化的、如何是透明化的，可以穩定我們的產業鏈不至於斷鏈，我覺得這是很重要的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:37:53.720000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:38:10.226000+08:00","text":"院長，我會提出這個問題是希望你關心我們中南部的產業鏈，造就了在地廣大的勞工、市民朋友們、國人，所以我們政府是有義務也有責任，一定要好好的穩定民生產業。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-24T10:38:10.226000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:38:38.317000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員長期關心各個產業，尤其是我們中部地區精密製造的機械產業，我們已經從大宗的物資，從租稅優惠已經延長了時間，剛剛部長所提的，就是對現在幾項比較緊張的原物料，我們設定的原則是上游不漲、下游不囤，還有調度的窗口，用這幾項把現在的秩序儘量平穩下來。","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:38:38.317000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:38:39.717000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝院長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:38:39.937000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:38:48.420000+08:00","text":"因為剛剛提到民生產業、物價波動等等要穩定，最近大家在談的就是能源的問題，我剛剛還聽到有核武，我聽到這兩個字有點驚嚇到。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:38:53.981000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:39:04.108000+08:00","text":"核四在馬英九時代封存，那現有的，最近這幾天在談的核二、核三重啟評估，我還是要問一下院長的態度。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:39:04.728000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:39:26.104000+08:00","text":"我們當然是依法、依規來行政，但是也必須在核安無虞、安全第一、核廢有解、社會共識的三大前提，專業、務實才是我們穩定向前最重要的依據，但是最終我們還是要確保全民的民生產業的供電穩定。","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:39:26.765000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:39:33.110000+08:00","text":"院長，您再一次的宣示一下，對於重啟評估，我們行政院的態度是什麼？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-24T10:39:33.561000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:39:56.391000+08:00","text":"安全供電無虞是政府對人民以及對產業的責任，同時也是臺灣對全世界的責任，所以我們一定會勇敢的把這個事情落實下來，不僅是核能的三原則──核安、核廢以及共識這個三原則不變，我們還有另外一個不變是持續發展二次能源轉型不變！","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-24T10:39:56.391000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:40:05.734000+08:00","text":"我們要持續發展多元的綠能、深度節能、科技儲能，還有強化電網韌性，這個二次能源的轉型也是不變，這兩個不變是前提。","quality":0.98},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-24T10:40:06.314000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:40:41.842000+08:00","text":"另外，在程序上，現在台電已經在自主安全檢查，這個禮拜，也就是這個月底又要送出再運轉計畫，送出之後第二個程序是核安會必須審慎召集所有專家進行審慎的評估，評估之後，自主安全檢查到底所有設備老化到什麼程度、汰舊換新什麼時間可以完成以及動用的經費有多少，才會有一個具體，再運轉計畫通過審核之後才能夠進入到下一個程序；所以目前只是在程序的最開頭而已，未來程序還有一段路要走。","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-24T10:40:42.322000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:40:55.059000+08:00","text":"我們還是說，第一個講求的是安全，必須安全確定無虞；第二個，程序的過程依照現在的速度，能夠讓它持續的、有效率的進行；目前整個進度是到這個程度。","quality":0.984},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:40:56.619000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:41:13.108000+08:00","text":"院長，我覺得這個要說清楚，而且要公開、透明的讓國人知道，我們願意重啟評估，但後面還有程序，最重要是依法、依規，而且三大前提：安全、核廢有解、社會共識。是。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:41:14.008000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:41:16.490000+08:00","text":"我覺得三大前提還是在這裡！","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:41:16.490000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:41:24.396000+08:00","text":"同時我們對於二次能源轉型還是持續推動，綠能還是我們未來重點的能源政策之一。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:41:25.016000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:41:32.382000+08:00","text":"所以，第一個，能源政策是多元評估、多元推動，但是我們要確保穩定供電。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:41:32.862000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:41:32.882000+08:00","text":"為什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:41:33.903000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:41:46.099000+08:00","text":"因為接下來在賴總統跟行政院宣示的未來AI人工智慧、算力產業，我相信需要用電，所以多元的備用能源都必須納入考量。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:41:47.113000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:41:48.254000+08:00","text":"我們宣示什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:41:48.254000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-24T10:41:50.855000+08:00","text":"臺灣要有AI新十大建設！","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"何委員欣純","start":"2026-03-24T10:41:50.855000+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