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先用基金來支應來協助重要的國際賽會賽事不受影響下頁但是冤有頭債有主喔剛剛還是有在野黨的委員又來做賊喊抓賊了"},{"start":251.442,"end":266.151,"text":"因為是國會不審預算但他們現在甩鍋給卓榮泰院長甩鍋給行政院說我先放行的一個718億這一包道理要說清楚講明白以國家總預算來講3兆350億只放行718億代表國會擺爛了97.63%的預算不審"},{"start":275.376,"end":282.759,"text":"新興計畫以國家整體來講只放行的718億就是丟包了76%的新興預算而在運動部我們今天關鍵的是運動預算我聽您試算出來了左邊的這一個下方左邊的這個表呢其實還扣除了你的運發基金93億喔"},{"start":296.465,"end":316.957,"text":"所以说公务预算跟补助款加起来121亿里头在野党的委员只抽出新兴预算的品牌赛事的8亿代表什么93.39%的运动预算在野党被国会摆烂而如果就新兴预算这边来统计的话"},{"start":318.018,"end":337.548,"text":"只放行8億但是是丟包了89.3的新興預算就是今天的主題有41.34億的全民運動沒有辦法來推廣冤有頭債有主我們還是要把道理勇敢的說不分顏色我們只問是非"},{"start":338.368,"end":353.853,"text":"我不希望下一次排運動部我還要再拜託總預算趕快審再進行同樣的喊話不要再浪費國會的時間不要再浪費國人的時間我想您要做好準備如果總預算附委審查"},{"start":354.853,"end":383.871,"text":"还是需要一段时间了那会不会有另外一个国际赛会没办法办或是下一个县市认为它的建设受到影响您可能这个球会接不完所以要像您在场上一样求求要能接而且能够要预先未雨绸缪超减部署好吗好下一个全民运动人人都是运动推手我看到一个亮点计划叫做村里认证很好下一页首先跟您分享哦"},{"start":385.051,"end":404.523,"text":"全民運動跟競技運動就是我們的兩大塊的重要政策面向競技運動就是要培育更多的運動員運動家但是吳思瑤我更關切的是全民運動的這一端我們要培養更多的運動家庭"},{"start":406,"end":429.487,"text":"運動家很重要專業的運動員很重要國際奪牌的這個目標很重要但是政策方向我們應當更側重在培養更多的運動家庭我一再的跟您提醒有運動家庭才會有好的運動環境運動氛圍下一頁那這裡有四個人總統"},{"start":432.268,"end":461.255,"text":"還有您部長還有市長還有這一位最右邊這一位你可能不認識誰會是最好的運動推手從總統部長市長到最右邊這是吳思瑤的北投我家的那個里長叫黃勝宗里長即慶禮哪一個是最重要的運動推手跟委員您報告我個人認為在運動產業以及推手來講我覺得都非常重要"},{"start":461.874,"end":475.344,"text":"A B C D 都重要這是最政治正確也是真的最正確的回答不要忘了 立定很重要所以我們有了下一頁村裡認證的計畫113年是事辦136個通過114年正式上路有214個里正式獲得運動村裡的認證這個計畫呢預算好少好少只有850億"},{"start":491.174,"end":505.623,"text":"雖然少但是要做好我希望來年要更增編更擴編在對的方向上下一頁我會為您爬梳出幾個問題運動村裡的認證其實是換寡也換不均的全台灣有7752個里"},{"start":513.34,"end":514.323,"text":"申請數只有4.23的里328個來申請通過數只佔"},{"start":521.874,"end":543.813,"text":"所有7750个里当中的2.76%而申请通过的比例是不低的有6成5是因为来申请的人不多那你右边的这个图可以看到他明显的城乡是有失衡的请看最下面那个红色的这个bar平均全台湾各个县市"},{"start":544.972,"end":569.95,"text":"有每一个县市是10个里获得而六都呢是18.3个里获得而非六都就只降到只有一个县市6.9个村里去参与而且获得这个认证这就是告诉我们换寡也换不均而且他有城乡的失衡这是问题下一页所以说我替你很快的"},{"start":571.004,"end":584.591,"text":"分享我觀察到的問題我就不細究不論述時間也快到了第一個這個認證現在只有書面審查只是paperwork所以為什麼城市的里長他可能這方面的他的資訊落差"},{"start":586.482,"end":606.774,"text":"比较能够弥补它没有这些数位落差它也比较有资源所以在你的评比的项目去看个里的运动现况有多少场馆场所你平常做了哪些活动的推广这都用量化来取代质化这是第一个问题只是paperwork没有实地的去访查第二个问题是"},{"start":607.654,"end":612.057,"text":"政策誘因不足啊部長你知道嗎如果獲得認證 這個里長 這個里可以獲得什麼獎金 獎牌 獎品嗎"},{"start":618.131,"end":640.997,"text":"好我跟你說就是一個運動村裡認證的標章然後寫上新聞稿看記者要不要提要不要報導然後運動部如果有在這個縣市辦活動這個裡可以優先邀請你這是第一個政策誘因不足第二個宣傳方式很陽春你們怎麼去跟里長宣傳呢只有辦說明會"},{"start":643.329,"end":656.786,"text":"現在都是iPhone 17了我們不能還在用Nokia好嗎所以說宣傳方式也要來加緊的來調整再下一個獲獎的村裡是須有其名是什麼意思呢"},{"start":658.379,"end":675.595,"text":"我以我自己士林北投我在準備這個質詢的時候我發現我的士林北投加起來有九個里長獲得這個認證很棒可是我自己有點摸不著頭腦這個里因為我都很熟悉他是為什麼獲得這個認證呢你看不出來"},{"start":676.877,"end":696.259,"text":"所以說虛有其名是說你只公布了他的名字這個李很棒北投的即興李很棒但是他是因為做了什麼好的創意的運動推廣讓他獲得這個認證是看不到的所以說推動的亮點沒有辦法被推廣出來"},{"start":697.04,"end":714.759,"text":"这是我看到的第三个问题所以我最后的建议有下一页请您可以学习环境部也有很多透过邻里去推动永续城市低碳家园的平等你可以去学学他们的经验他们会有实地的考核"},{"start":715.8,"end":730.612,"text":"更重要的是他不會是一次性的他會你一旦被列入這個生態綠化小組或是節能節電小組他會永續的每年都在去考核讓你看你是繼續是名流榜上還是就"},{"start":732.373,"end":750.607,"text":"拜拜了这才是有意义的今天时间非常有限给您肯定运动村里认证的这个做法理想会是很好的运动的推手但是要给资源要给诱因可能也需要给补助更实质的"},{"start":751.568,"end":778.609,"text":"給里長他們有更大的動力還有你的宣傳方式要更創新然後考核也要能夠符合事實而不是只有paperwork只有量化而沒有質化沒有時間讓您最後您要不要最後回應一下這些我的建議是不是都能夠急速來調整跟委員您報告那首先非常感謝您對於我們這個村裡認證的這一個重視那我個人也非常重視這一點那委員您的建議我們全部會來做"},{"start":780.37,"end":786.783,"text":"好的計畫就好事不要做半套我們做更多 做更好 做得更到位後續我會持續的關心謝謝 謝副長"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:41.507000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:42.028000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:42.028000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:42.149000+08:00","text":"有請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:48.940000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:49.660000+08:00","text":"委員您好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:49.880000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:31:50.580000+08:00","text":"部長辛苦了！","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:31:51.221000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:32:00.823000+08:00","text":"聆聽您一個早上的答詢，您對於業務的掌握，還有在整個詢答的過程不卑不亢，我覺得有很多進步，給您鼓勵跟加油！","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:32:01.683000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:32:21.932000+08:00","text":"我也很希望我今天質詢的第一part的主題下個禮拜可以不用在這裡提出來了，因為整個國家總預算能不能付委審查就看在野黨委員本週五能不能讓它真的交付審查，而不是當放羊的孩子。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:32:22.732000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:32:25.915000+08:00","text":"我們希望如果支持運動，就審預算！","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:32:26.676000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:32:31.640000+08:00","text":"我昨天質詢國科會也同樣感同身受、感觸良多。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:32:32.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:32:51.929000+08:00","text":"去年教育及文化委員會通過了AI基本法，可是因為總預算不審，新興計畫連帶影響AI新十大建設就高達102億元，同樣的，去年我們朝野支持成立了運動部，可是巧婦難為無米之炊。","quality":0.689},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:32:51.929000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:32:54.390000+08:00","text":"如果挺運動，就審預算！","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:32:55.050000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:32:58.432000+08:00","text":"我希望下禮拜我不需要再來重複這樣一個主題。","quality":0.65},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:32:59.032000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:33:07.836000+08:00","text":"我要對在野黨的委員喊話：希望下個禮拜總預算就能真正付委審查，請在野黨的委員不要再喊「狼來了」，不要再當放羊的孩子。","quality":0.608},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:33:08.977000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:33:10.637000+08:00","text":"總預算不審，運動部受害！","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:33:11.158000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:33:44.086000+08:00","text":"今天專報的主題是全民運動，我這頁PPT左邊所呈現的就是整個運動部的新興計畫以及新增預算加總起來，因為國會不審預算連帶影響共達74.65億元，這是運動部受到影響的，其中跟今天專報主題全民運動有關的高達55%，也就是有41.34億元因為總預算沒審而受到影響。","quality":0.766},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:33:45.627000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:33:52.088000+08:00","text":"我相信大家都關心全民運動，所以召委這個會期第一場有關運動部的質詢就安排全民運動。","quality":0.711},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:33:52.088000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:34:03.890000+08:00","text":"可是正因為總預算沒有審，就有高達41.34億元的全民運動預算沒有辦法支應，這不是國人期待的，也不是社會樂見的。","quality":0.936},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:34:06.131000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:34:22.105000+08:00","text":"當然，很快地，在野黨委員的迴力鏢就來了，一手要錢，一手擋錢，這個現象就發生在昨天彰化的現場，我覺得您的回應非常得體、公允。","quality":0.811},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:34:23.045000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:34:30.148000+08:00","text":"做為一個運動部長，不分顏色、不分黨派，沒有預算，你就是沒有辦法支持國家的建設。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:34:30.288000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:34:45.739000+08:00","text":"沒想到連著兩天，連續兩個迴力鏢又來到我們今天影響到的是無數運動員的權益，影響到的是我們的田徑產業，更影響到我們的國際形象：臺灣國際田徑公開賽沒有辦法舉辦！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:34:46.019000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:35:00.191000+08:00","text":"對此，您已經清楚說明會用基金來支應，所以您百分之百拍胸脯打包票，一定全力支持讓這個賽事不會辦不了、辦不成，對不對？","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:35:00.671000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:35:04.234000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，從其實從去年開始，我們一直在輔導……","quality":0.65},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:35:04.635000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:35:05.095000+08:00","text":"我知道。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:35:06.016000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:35:08.818000+08:00","text":"對，其實一直以來到昨天，我們都還有積極跟田協做輔導……","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:35:09.999000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:35:12.121000+08:00","text":"基金的選項，有沒有之前就提出來？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:35:13.002000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:35:24.250000+08:00","text":"基金的選項，我們一直有都有輔導田徑協會，我們今天還是會繼續跟田徑協會溝通，希望在保障運動員的參賽權益下，我們還是希望可以將此次的賽事在臺灣舉辦。","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:35:24.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:35:30.174000+08:00","text":"好，希望總預算之亂，李洋部長能夠有效地拆彈好嗎？","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:35:30.174000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:35:35.897000+08:00","text":"先用基金支應來協助重要的國際賽會、賽事不受影響。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:35:36.918000+08: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:43.076000+08:00","text":"部長知道嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:41:43.076000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:41:43.777000+08:00","text":"如果獲得認證，這個里長、這個里可以獲得什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:41:43.777000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:41:44.057000+08:00","text":"獎金、獎牌、獎品嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:41:44.057000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:41:50.131000+08:00","text":"我跟委員……","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:41:50.131000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:42:07.235000+08:00","text":"好，我跟你說，就是一個運動村里認證的標章，然後寫上新聞稿，看記者要不要提、要不要報導，然後運動部如果有在這個縣市辦活動，這個里可以優先邀請你，這是第一個，政策誘因不足。","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:42:07.935000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:42:12.396000+08:00","text":"第二個，宣傳方式很陽春，你們怎麼去跟里長宣傳呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:42:12.717000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:42:20.656000+08:00","text":"只有辦說明會，現在都是iPhone 17了，我們不能還再用Nokia，好嗎？","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:42:20.656000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:42:23.960000+08:00","text":"所以宣傳方式也要加緊的來調整。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:42:24.121000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:42:28.766000+08:00","text":"再下一個，獲獎的村里是虛有其名，這是什麼意思呢？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:42:30.379000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:42:39.788000+08:00","text":"我以我自己士林、北投為例，我在準備這個質詢的時候，我發現我的士林、北投加起來有9個里長獲得這個認證，很棒！","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:42:40.549000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:42:46.874000+08:00","text":"可是我自己有點摸不著頭緒，這個里因為我都很熟悉，它為什麼獲得這個認證呢？","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:42:47.115000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:43:03.614000+08:00","text":"你看不出來，所以說虛有其名是指你只公布了它的名字，這個里很棒，北投的吉慶里很棒，但是它是因為做了什麼好的創意的運動推廣，而讓它獲得這個認證？","quality":0.859},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:43:03.614000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:43:10.301000+08:00","text":"這是看不到的，所以推動的亮點沒有辦法被推廣出來，這是我看到的第三個問題。","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:43:10.882000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:43:46.535000+08:00","text":"所以我最後的建議，請您可以學習環境部，它也有很多透過鄰里去推動永續城市、低碳家園的評等，你可以去學學他們的經驗，他們會有實地的考核，更重要的是，它不會是一次性的，一旦被列入生態綠化小組或是節能節電小組，它會永續的每年都再去考核，看你是繼續名留榜上，還是說拜拜了，這才是有意義的。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:43:46.995000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:44:15.898000+08:00","text":"今天時間非常有限，跟您肯定運動村里認證的這個做法，里長會是很好的運動推手，但是要給資源、要給誘因，可能也需要給補助，更實質的給里長他們有更大的動力，還有你的宣傳方式要更創新，考核也要能夠符合事實，而不是只有paperwork、只有量化而沒有質化。","quality":0.804},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:44:16.598000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:44:21.522000+08:00","text":"沒有時間了，你還要不要最後回應一下這些我的建議，是不是都能夠急速來調整？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:44:22.002000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:44:30.589000+08:00","text":"跟委員您報告，首先非常感謝您對於我們村里認證的重視，我個人也非常重視這一點，委員的建議，我們全部會來做。","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"吳委員思瑤","start":"2026-04-09T11:44:32.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-09T11:44:38.763000+08:00","text":"好的計畫就好事不要做半套，我們做更多、做更好、做得更到位，後續我會持續的關心，謝謝部長。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:44:39.263000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:44:40.405857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:44:40.705857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:44:47.563000+08:00","text":"處理臨時提案，共4案，請一併宣讀，宣讀後，再逐案進行處理。一、","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:44:47.863000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:45:32.720143+08:00","text":"查台灣女足代表隊球員日前集體連署發聲，提出「重整教練團、制度透明化、正視球員心聲」三點訴求，並在運動部與足協回應後，由女足球員工會進一步補充「1.教練(團)檢討作為應於兩周內完成、2.不得秋後算帳、3.後勤專人專職並透明化國訓專案經費使用狀況、4.運動部應依法落實對協會之財務監督稽核協助釐清自前屆亞洲盃起積欠包含球員、職員款項狀況，並確認預計還款規劃。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:45:33.020143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:45:41.591571+08:00","text":"」等四項要求，顯見目前足協在技術、行政等各面向上均出現治理失能狀況。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:45:41.891571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:46:17.891571+08:00","text":"而盤點自去年四月紐西蘭女足因足協場地問題罷賽起迄今一年期間，七月份女足航班時間事件、十月份十一人制與五人制男足後勤事件、以及各種不及詳載之爭議，運動部每次事件後均強調將進行輔導，但相關爭議卻始終未能消停，嚴重打擊國人對於政府監督與輔導協會之信心，更讓球員成為了犧牲品。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:46:18.191571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:46:53.620143+08:00","text":"考量李洋部長上任後，運動員權益與協會改革是重點施政方向，為重建球員與社會對於運動部監督之信心，建請本案由部長親自列管，除要求足協應於兩周內完成相關調查，運動部亦應於兩周內公開提出輔導措施為何失靈之檢討報告策進作為，並針對女足球員與工會合計之七點訴求具體提出應對。","quality":0.008},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:46:53.920143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:46:54.920143+08:00","text":"陳培瑜","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:46:55.220143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:46:58.077286+08:00","text":"吳沛憶　　郭昱晴　　吳思瑤二、","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:46:58.377286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:47:27.520143+08:00","text":"鑑於運動部成立後，持續推動校園及基層運動發展相關補助計畫，惟目前涉及學校體育、基層訓練、設施設備及活動推動等事項，與教育部之權責分工尚未明確釐清，易生資源重複投入或權責不清之情形，影響政策執行效率及整體資源配置之合理性。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:47:27.820143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:47:54.391571+08:00","text":"尤其自運動部成立迄今已逾半年，相關補助項目之標準內容及主責單位卻一再調整，地方政府及學校端普遍反映制度不穩定、權責混淆，甚至出現無所適從之情形，顯示跨部會協調機制尚未建立，亦影響運動政策推動之連續性。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:47:54.691571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:48:02.691571+08:00","text":"為強化跨部會協調機制、提升補助政策透明度與執行效能，請運動部：","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:48:02.991571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:48:16.705857+08:00","text":"一、會同教育部，全面盤點目前涉及「學校體育」之相關補助計畫，包含經費來源、補助對象、項目內容、審查標準及執行方式。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:48:17.005857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:48:29.005857+08:00","text":"二、明確區分運動部與教育部於學校體育、基層運動發展及相關設施設備補助之權責分工，並對外公開。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:48:29.305857+08: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},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:54:21.977286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:54:23.120143+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:54:23.420143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:54:32.848714+08:00","text":"臨時提案第三案，我也是提案委員，沒有需要補充說明的，是不是請機關直接補充？","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:54:33.148714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:54:48.291571+08:00","text":"跟主席回報，是否在第3段第5行「建立跨部會資料」後，將「比對」拿掉，改成「介接查詢與揭露機制，以提供用人單位任用教練前之背景審查」？","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:54:48.591571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:54:54.877286+08:00","text":"然後，最後一段是否可以改為一個月內提供書面報告？","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:54:55.177286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:55:03.177286+08:00","text":"好，謝謝部長，目前文字上大致沒有意見，但對於一個月內我不能接受。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:55:03.477286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:55:12.048714+08:00","text":"跟主席回報，因為介接查詢確實會比較複雜一點，我們還是想跟主席回報。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:55:12.348714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:55:19.491571+08:00","text":"對不起，我先補充，若我記得沒有錯的話……如果有錯可以糾正我。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:55:19.791571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:55:37.791571+08:00","text":"我記得陳培瑜委員好像曾經在司法及法制委員會對司法單位提出這部分的建議，在介接上，其實我認為法務部應該全力支援，所以你們應該強力地溝通。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:55:38.091571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:55:43.520143+08:00","text":"一個月我覺得太久了，是不是可以再提前一些？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:55:43.820143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:55:44.963000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:55:45.263000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:55:52.691571+08:00","text":"雖然我不是提案委員，可是既然主席都點名我了，我就說明一下。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:55:52.991571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:56:08.991571+08:00","text":"確實，我們在司法及法制委員會問過法務部，因為要把所謂的性犯罪紀錄這件事情納進來，其實就現行法規是不行的、是本來就有疑義的。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:56:09.291571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:56:29.005857+08:00","text":"而我剛剛的質詢內容指的是在原來的教練登錄系統裡面，例如陳培瑜已經是棒球教練，但因為我犯了性平案件，所以棒球教練證被取消，在棒球教練資格上是不合格的。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:56:29.305857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:56:39.305857+08:00","text":"可是家長如果上網查，只是看不到陳培瑜的名字，並不知道陳培瑜為什麼沒有這張證。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:56:39.605857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:05.891571+08:00","text":"我當時的建議是在網站上提供另外一個網頁，針對陳培瑜為什麼被取消加以說明，例如犯了性平法第幾條等等，這樣就好了，讓家長知道教練曾經犯過這個錯，如果家長還是要找他，那就是家長的選擇，沒有問題，我指的是這個。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:06.191571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:23.905857+08:00","text":"但如果要直接透過資料串接完成主席希望的查核機制，我會說一個月根本不夠，假設讓法務部及司法院的態度加進來，協助法規完整，一個月真的不夠。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:24.205857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:45.063000+08:00","text":"我也覺得，這件事情可不可以做，真的還是要聽法務部跟司法院的建議，跟我剛剛原本的質詢或我從兩年前開始給體育署、到現在運動部的建議是兩碼事，所以我想我還是要說明。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:45.363000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:46.363000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:46.663000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:47.663000+08:00","text":"所以呢？","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:47.963000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:57:51.105857+08:00","text":"我的提案，你可以再往前嗎？","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:57:51.405857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:07.691571+08:00","text":"我想，如剛剛陳培瑜委員所提供，我們對於跟法務部的跨部會合作確實會儘量，但還是想跟主席回報，不知道是否可以給我們一個月的時間？","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:07.991571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:11.134429+08:00","text":"我們會儘量完成這件事情。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:11.434429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:12.434429+08:00","text":"好，OK。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:12.734429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:14.734429+08:00","text":"主席，那我建議啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:15.034429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:23.034429+08:00","text":"由於我們都在意這件事，那我有一個具體建議，主席也可以參考看看。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:23.334429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:31.620143+08:00","text":"如果要在二週內提出書面報告，他們大概只能就現行法規對你說不行。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:31.920143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:51.063000+08:00","text":"可是部長，我也要提醒你，我覺得連一個月都有困難，因為法務部跟司法院對於兒少性犯罪這件事情可能會站在他們的本位思考，要介接到可以開放、讓家長查詢嗎？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:51.363000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:53.648714+08:00","text":"或是老師可以查詢？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:53.948714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:58:57.663000+08:00","text":"還是一般社區的人都可以查詢？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:58:57.963000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:01.105857+08:00","text":"我覺得真的要審慎地研議。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:01.405857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:05.977286+08:00","text":"所以一個月你們只是報告而已，對不對？","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:06.277286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:09.420143+08:00","text":"跟委員回復，對，目前可能是。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員培瑜","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:09.720143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:15.434429+08:00","text":"我覺得連要用三個月把部會找來開會都有困難。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:15.734429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:18.877286+08:00","text":"好，那就先給你一個月時間。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:19.177286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:20.320143+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:20.620143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:25.477286+08:00","text":"臨時提案第三案依討論後修正文字通過。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:25.777286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:28.348714+08:00","text":"處理臨時提案第四案。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:28.648714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:35.220143+08:00","text":"我也是提案委員，就直接請機關針對這項臨時提案回復。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:35.520143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:44.091571+08:00","text":"跟委員回復，是否將第2段倒數第2行「並不利於我國體育」中的「體育」改為「運動」？","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:44.391571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:53.820143+08:00","text":"第3段第3行「請運動部應就國家隊……」修正為「……足球國家隊教練團組成」，增加「足球」兩個字？","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:54.120143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T11:59:59.548714+08:00","text":"好，臨時提案第四案依討論後修正之文字通過。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-04-09T11:59:59.848714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:00:00.991571+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:00:01.291571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:00:16.720143+08:00","text":"以上，謝謝在場委員陪伴我們一起把臨時提案給完成，謝謝柯志恩委員、羅智強委員、李坤城委員、鍾佳濱委員、陳培瑜委員、吳思瑤委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:00:17.020143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:00:21.020143+08:00","text":"臨時提案處理完畢，繼續進行詢答。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-09T12:00:21.320143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-09T12:00:23.605857+08:00","text":"請李坤城委員詢答。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}