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0.36%，所以油電價跟CPI是連體嬰式的雙升曲線。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:32:23.559000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:32:28.062000+08:00","text":"因為今天你們院方也宣布桶裝瓦斯不漲價嘛！","quality":0.789},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:32:28.182000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:32:34.506000+08:00","text":"我就想請教一下，10月份的電價不知道院長您究竟是支持漲價還是不支持漲價？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:32:36.511000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:32:37.771000+08:00","text":"確定的是9月之前不漲價。","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:32:37.771000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:32:43.893000+08:00","text":"沒有人會在沒有條件下，支持或不支持一件事情。","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:32:44.633000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:32:54.615000+08:00","text":"總之，控制在CPI2%，這是我們的目標，目前雖然它往上調，但是你也知道這兩、三個月來的狀況是特別特別的緊張。","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:32:55.255000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:32:58.416000+08:00","text":"院長，因為你現在沒辦法明確的表達，沒有錯！","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:32:58.416000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:32:59.837000+08:00","text":"你的意思就是你不能確定，你不能說……","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:33:00.317000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:33:08.704000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們有充分的資料給審議委員會委員了解實際的狀況，最後決定的還是他們。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:33:08.704000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:33:09.845000+08:00","text":"好，沒關係。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:33:09.845000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:33:24.332000+08:00","text":"院長及部長，因為你們經濟部次長之前也親口說，如果戰爭3個月內結束，10月的電價調漲壓力比較小，可是今天已經4月24日，4週已經過去，離3個月的時間也只剩下不到9個禮拜。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:33:25.192000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:33:35.156000+08:00","text":"布蘭特原油也衝上100元以上，所以停火停不住，油價到現在也還在漲，剩下9週要怎麼結束？","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:33:35.616000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:34:05.350000+08:00","text":"所以我覺得這3個月所謂的平行宇宙時間表，真的是讓我們很擔憂，連川普自己都說，到11月油價會維持在高檔，就算明天戰事結束，所謂LNG的長約及連動的油價也有遞延的效果，所以從俄烏戰爭的前例，歐洲天然氣也花了整整2年才回到一定的水平，而不是3個月，所以我想這個問題是一個很結構性的問題。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:34:05.510000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:34:11.054000+08:00","text":"我也想問一下、關心一下，現在相關原油有什麼樣的進展？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:34:11.395000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:34:25.584000+08:00","text":"請教一件具體的事情，台塑君善輪所運載的200萬桶原油大概5月6日到達臺灣，你們當初大動作、有新聞宣傳說這可能有2週的時間。","quality":0.784},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:34:25.725000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:34:34.490000+08:00","text":"我想要請問一下，行政院有沒有掌握這批原油確定是內銷，有沒有不能讓它外銷？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:34:34.490000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:34:36.672000+08:00","text":"針對這個部分想請較一下，因為畢竟他是私人公司。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:34:36.732000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:34:37.633000+08:00","text":"我請部長來說明。","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:34:37.913000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:34:42.876000+08:00","text":"原則上，我們對油的掌握，目前安全存量比較高，是沒有大問題的。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:34:43.957000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:34:48.800000+08:00","text":"比較緊張的是天然氣，但是我們到6月之前也都沒有問題，至於細部的規劃，我請部長說明。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:34:48.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:34:51.581000+08:00","text":"我想要請問一下，針對這200萬桶原油，你們有沒有掌握？","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:34:51.801000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:03.105000+08:00","text":"報告委員，因為戰爭已經一個多月了，我們原來在油品部分的儲備量都有140天，也都沒有減少，所以雖然有用掉……","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:03.345000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:05.287000+08:00","text":"這200萬桶原油，我想要請教……不好意思，您就直接回答我。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:05.387000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:06.568000+08:00","text":"我們有跟台塑……","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:08.049000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:08.789000+08:00","text":"你有跟他聯絡嗎？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:08.789000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:09.789000+08:00","text":"你有跟他們說……","quality":0},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:09.789000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:10.789000+08:00","text":"有，有跟他聯絡。","quality":0},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:08.789000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:09.950000+08:00","text":"是不是以國內供應為主？","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:10.570000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:12.312000+08:00","text":"原則上以國內為主，沒有錯。好。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:13.433000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:20.358000+08:00","text":"那我想要另外再請教一個問題，當初也有說過荷姆茲海峽要收過路費，那你們有沒有掌握，這艘船有付過路費嗎？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:22.166000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:23.047000+08:00","text":"這個我們就沒有去詢問……","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:23.347000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:24.468000+08:00","text":"你們不曉得、你們沒有掌握。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:24.468000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:25.468000+08:00","text":"因為我想要問的事情是……","quality":0},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:25.288000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:40.620000+08:00","text":"我們只確定它進來的量可以優先使用在國內，然後4月份、5月份該進來的部分……至少4月份的4條運原油進來的船都已經到港了，所以也沒有問題。","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:40.860000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:42.941000+08:00","text":"5月份的部分，按照這個時程也會陸續到港。","quality":0.471},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:43.462000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:50.369000+08:00","text":"對，因為我們現在看到的是原油的價格一路高檔次到年底啊！","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:50.830000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:57.018000+08:00","text":"所以我們很擔心民眾的生活，你們今天也提出說要補貼計程車6,000元，對不對？是。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:57.947000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:35:58.688000+08:00","text":"你們今天有提出嘛！昨天。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:35:59.068000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:36:12.656000+08:00","text":"可是本席想要說的是我們不反對，但是現在所有的，不管是油價、瓦斯等民生部分，全部都在漲，我想要請問一下，那一樣用油的外送員呢、物流業呢、小貨車業呢？","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:36:12.656000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:36:13.297000+08:00","text":"一樣在繳電費的攤商呢、夜市家庭呢？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:36:17.139000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:36:37.253000+08:00","text":"我覺得這個是全面性的衝擊，所以本席想要建議，行政院的應變應該是一個全方位的，包含這些中產，甚至弱勢、邊緣戶、受衝擊的產業跟家庭都要接得住，不是單就部分的職業，我們應該是用全方位的預算去支持他們。","quality":0.989},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:36:38.734000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:36:50.302000+08:00","text":"因為今天早上我看到新聞，行政院發言人也說，中央政府要推出民生物價的平穩措施，整體的財源尚在盤整，將適時對外說明。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:36:50.862000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:36:53.404000+08:00","text":"想要請問一下，你們什麼時候盤整？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:36:53.824000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:36:54.585000+08:00","text":"大概是什麼方向？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:36:55.865000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:36:56.266000+08:00","text":"請院長回答。","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:36:57.299000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:37:16.160000+08:00","text":"就是針對各部會目前受到衝擊的產業，正在做更細部的規劃，我們昨天提出的是首先對大眾運輸事業來做一些補貼，因為它的價錢是不能浮動的，所以它的支出負擔重了，就是產業或是……","quality":0.868},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:37:16.160000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:37:17.341000+08:00","text":"所以有沒有時程表？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:37:17.541000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:37:19.242000+08:00","text":"不好意思，院長，你們大概有什麼時程表嗎？","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:37:19.383000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:37:22.085000+08:00","text":"你說各個部會去盤點，那要盤點到什麼時候？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:37:23.166000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:37:34.875000+08:00","text":"主計長也有說這次的能源衝擊，大約需要1,300億元，想要請問一下，這個算是盤點完的金額嗎？還是……","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:37:34.975000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:37:42.921000+08:00","text":"不是，那是各部會送出來的粗估，我們還要看各部會之間的橫向協調，有些可能可以互相支援，那……院長……","quality":0.927},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:37:43.601000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:37:43.982000+08:00","text":"什麼時間呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:37:44.662000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:37:53.467000+08:00","text":"我認為最好的時間就是我們評估完之後，能不能用現在的公務預算或是之前的特別預算。","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:37:54.828000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:38:10.844000+08:00","text":"如果我們必須再追加預算的話，那必須在大院審查預算結束之後再提出才是合理，如果還沒有審查完而我們提出，大院也能夠接受的話，我們也可以適時的計算之後提出追加預算。","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:38:11.444000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:38:13.247000+08:00","text":"院長，本席就是要告訴你說這個時間要快。好。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:38:14.008000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:38:15.810000+08:00","text":"現在就在漲，一般的民眾現在真的是等不及。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:38:18.494000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:38:21.657000+08:00","text":"我也請大院審查預算的速度快一點，我們互相來比快。","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:38:21.657000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:38:25.160000+08:00","text":"因為你剛剛也有說到還有其他特別預算，那你還要盤點嘛！","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:38:25.340000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:38:31.425000+08:00","text":"所以你們盤點的速度以及到時候要提出的方案，也請儘速提出，送到立法院來，好不好？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:38:31.785000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:38:32.266000+08:00","text":"我們都來加快。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:38:33.186000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:38:52.111000+08:00","text":"另外，我想要進一步問我們國家的AI新十大建設，我拜讀過你們新十大建設的核定本，四年1,900億元裡面有所謂的智慧交通、智慧防災、智慧觀光、智慧醫療。","quality":0.937},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:38:53.472000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:39:10.506000+08:00","text":"昨天（4月23日）數發部資安署認定高德地圖是危害國家資通安全的產品，所以公務機關跟國軍都已經禁用，民用層級的部分，你們是呼籲民眾不要下載，你們說5月才可以公布完整的資安評測。","quality":0.974},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:39:12.848000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:39:25.577000+08:00","text":"不管是圖資或者是國安的考量上，我們是尊重行政院的立場，但是站在民眾的立場上面，你們呼籲民眾不要用，我想是沒有用的，因為關鍵是你有沒有辦法有一個更好用的app。","quality":0.959},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:39:25.577000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:39:26.958000+08:00","text":"現在這個地圖整合了所謂AI紅綠燈辨識、AI智慧導航、AI街景建模，院長，你們四年1,900億的AI新十大建設，會整合出一個比高德更好用的民用app給臺灣人用嗎？","quality":0.014},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:39:26.958000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:39:29.180000+08:00","text":"現在我就用Google Maps啊！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:39:44.898000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:39:49.139000+08:00","text":"不是，我是說……現在Google Maps就是沒有辦法滿足這些相關的需求嘛！","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:39:49.519000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:40:02.263000+08:00","text":"所以我剛剛就問說，你們呼籲人家不要用，但是民間的反應就是覺得它很好用，所以重點是你的新十大AI建設裡面有沒有辦法可以扶植出這樣一個好用的民用app？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:40:04.585000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:40:15.158000+08:00","text":"AI新十大建設有十項的項目在裡面，其中最頂端那一項就是加強我們的軟體登峰，必須把我們的軟體做得更好，目前在處理，第一……","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:40:16.300000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:40:18.242000+08:00","text":"你會做出來比它更好用的民用app嗎？","quality":0.706},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:40:18.883000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:40:27.426000+08:00","text":"我不能夠馬上說一定會做出一個類似這樣的app，但是我想地圖的app，我們現在就有其他可以安全使用的。","quality":0.83},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:40:27.566000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:40:40.971000+08:00","text":"院長，因為我有看到你們在這個十大建設裡面有所謂的智慧交通、緊急車輛救援，還有智慧景區、精準天候預測，你們會在哪一項裡面去做這件事情？","quality":0.983},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-24T14:40:42.848000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:40:55.394000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，這個部分會屬於AI軟體產業登峰這一塊，這一塊其實是跟我們的全民智慧生活圈連結在一起，所以數發部會全力地來開發很多的app軟體……","quality":0.877},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:40:55.634000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:40:57.475000+08:00","text":"你們有沒有信心做得比它更好？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-24T14:40:59.393000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:41:01.334000+08:00","text":"這個我們會有信心，那我也會……","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:41:01.334000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:41:01.814000+08:00","text":"你會有信心？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-24T14:41:02.154000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:41:04.735000+08:00","text":"我會跟數發部一起來協調。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:41:04.975000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:41:06.456000+08:00","text":"院長，真的要做到啊！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:41:07.676000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:41:20.541000+08:00","text":"既然政府認定高德是境外敵對勢力的產品，我們就不能讓中國大陸的app做得比我們國家自己的app更好用，我想這是民間的競爭力，也是國家的尊嚴。","quality":0.908},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:41:21.301000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:41:31.389000+08:00","text":"我想要講你說的AI部分，要做這樣的app，運轉的AI要有算力，要有電，臺灣政府的算力到底準備多少呢？","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:41:31.849000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:41:38.096000+08:00","text":"我想要直接告訴你，還要另外再問一件事情，也是關於時事的部分，等一下會一併來討論這個AI問題。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:41:38.977000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:42:07.313000+08:00","text":"今天還有一件事情，川普公開點名臺灣，說美國要取得全球50%的晶片市場，而臺灣是最大宗的來源，他已經讓台積電承諾1,650億美元要赴美，美光承諾2,000億，總共1兆美元投資到美國，一年半以後，對於不到美國設廠的晶片公司要課予極高的關稅。","quality":0.959},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:42:07.313000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:42:11.835000+08:00","text":"所以想要問一下院長，針對這個新聞，川普講的部分，行政院怎麼看？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:42:12.415000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:42:14.155000+08:00","text":"打算怎麼因應？","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:42:14.155000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:42:19.035000+08:00","text":"第一，由此可見臺灣的重要性，我們在這種晶片製造上的重要性……","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:42:19.035000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:42:20.636000+08:00","text":"你有因應嗎？","quality":0},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:42:20.636000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:42:26.079000+08:00","text":"再來，臺灣會繼續站在最領先的地位，不論是它的質或量，臺灣永遠站在最領先的地位。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:42:26.479000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:42:35.145000+08:00","text":"第三，我們跟美方現在正進行301調查，很多的過程當中我們必須清楚的說明臺灣最有利於雙邊的一些立場。","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:42:36.058000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:42:39.442000+08:00","text":"院長，你可以看到這張圖，其實我們是非常擔憂的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:42:40.883000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:42:52.956000+08:00","text":"黃仁勳也說過五層蛋糕，第一層最下面是能源，再來是晶片，接著雲端、模型，然後是應用，結果我們現在製造的第二層蛋糕正在被挖走當中……","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:42:53.157000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:42:53.297000+08:00","text":"並沒有……沒有。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:42:54.078000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:42:54.538000+08:00","text":"邀我們去那邊設……","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:42:57.921000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:43:02.283000+08:00","text":"台積公司在臺灣設廠的速度跟量，我想未來委員會更清楚。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:43:02.283000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:43:03.283000+08:00","text":"遠遠比其他國家多得多。","quality":0},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:43:02.604000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:43:13.630000+08:00","text":"院長，這五層蛋糕中間的這層晶片，現在已經被要求大量去美國設廠，但是我們的算力呢？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:43:13.830000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:43:15.011000+08:00","text":"我們算力有沒有辦法跟上？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:43:15.792000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:43:24.720000+08:00","text":"想要問一個很殘酷的事實，臺灣最會賺錢的公司就是我們剛剛說的台積電，正在賣算力給全世界，但是我們有準備好嗎？","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:43:24.720000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:43:26.622000+08:00","text":"臺灣政府有沒有算力可以買？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:43:28.384000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:43:41.977000+08:00","text":"台積電資本支出在2026年一年大概是560億美元左右，在新臺幣1.6兆到1.7兆左右，它一間的資本支出是臺灣政府AI新十大建設4年1,900億的八到九倍。","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:43:45.554000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:44:04.732000+08:00","text":"現在大家都很關心所謂的AI token算力，所以包含輝達的工程師，黃仁勳說如果年薪50萬美金，他至少要用到25萬美金的token，才可以算是有賺錢，而且越用越多，每一次運算就是會賺錢，然後每次運算也都需要電。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:44:06.514000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:44:09.597000+08:00","text":"院長，你知道各國政府現在在AI算力上面做了些什麼事嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:44:11.005000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:44:14.148000+08:00","text":"我們也有自己的算力建設，在AI新十大建設裡面。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:44:14.528000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:44:15.549000+08:00","text":"有嘛，對不對？有啊。","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:44:15.549000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:44:16.549000+08:00","text":"而且輝達的海外總部就會設在臺灣。","quality":0},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:44:16.190000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:44:43.989000+08:00","text":"我想要告訴你，看起來、比較起來是遠遠不夠，因為英國4月才剛剛啟動5億約合新臺幣200億的主權AI基金，新加坡也砸了新臺幣將近四十億、三十幾億來補助中小企業買雲端算力，韓國2月也有首批的四千三百多片GPU到貨，2030年他打算要有26萬片。","quality":0.869},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:44:44.669000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:44:53.832000+08:00","text":"共同的一個點，就是這幾個政府都希望政府先把企業接上算力，我們臺灣呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:44:54.492000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:00.574000+08:00","text":"現在看起來，我們算力只有140片GPU，這個量級到底夠不夠呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:00.574000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:01.574000+08:00","text":"你們未來準備要多大……","quality":0},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:01.574000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:02.574000+08:00","text":"沒有，報告委員……","quality":0},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:02.574000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:03.574000+08:00","text":"跟委員回答一下。","quality":0},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:01.955000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:06.519000+08:00","text":"報告委員，在2028年時我們公部門加私部門的算力，大概會有13萬1912.6的PF。","quality":0.607},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:06.779000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:07.339000+08:00","text":"針對公部門的部分呢？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:07.479000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:08.861000+08:00","text":"我們是不是應該先儘速提供給企業？","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:19.750000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:21.431000+08:00","text":"這是公部門加私部門。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:21.651000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:23.753000+08:00","text":"私部門大概就是鴻海，這部分2028年……","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:23.753000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:24.753000+08:00","text":"已經確定了，高雄有100個MW……","quality":0},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:23.973000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:27.855000+08:00","text":"大概九萬左右。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:28.356000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:39.263000+08:00","text":"院長和各位行政官員，我想要講的是，剛剛有說到最底層的算力來自於電力，所以院長也很清楚，也就是電力、算力跟國力。","quality":0.837},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:40.844000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:48.729000+08:00","text":"現在各個國家的政府都在領先地在衝刺買雲端算力，所以我們是不是應該先預購雲端算力回來？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:49.850000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:51.511000+08:00","text":"我們是不是應該先準備起來？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:51.751000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-24T14:45:57.935000+08:00","text":"因此，短期是不是應該先加大預購雲端算力，讓企業現在就能用，或者讓學術單位就能用？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"廖委員偉翔","start":"2026-04-24T14:45:58.435000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:46:06.435000+08:00","text":"當然，中長期要趕快自建主權算力，這部分就拜託院長及部長，好不好？","quality":0.179},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-24T14:46:06.735000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:46:11.877857+08:00","text":"我們會加速進行主權AI及算力建設，謝謝。","quality":0.111},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-24T14:46:12.177857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:46:18.749286+08:00","text":"謝謝廖偉翔委員質詢、謝謝卓院長及相關部會首長備詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-24T14:46:19.049286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-24T14:46:24.477857+08:00","text":"接下來請涂權吉委員質詢，翁曉玲委員請準備。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}