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Repository的架構，這個架構蒐集了全世界各國不同的風險分類去做統整。","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T09:53:32.781000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:53:53.585000+08:00","text":"在這三大類、18個子類之下，我們把整個風險分類框架分為四個步驟：第一個步驟是盤點應用場景，也就是我們請各機關去盤點他們所管的業務範圍內有哪些AI應用的場景。","quality":0.549},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T09:53:54.285000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:54:00.787000+08:00","text":"第二個步驟就是看在這個應用場景底下，依據我們所提供的分類有哪些風險會產生。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T09:54:03.328000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:54:15.542000+08:00","text":"第三個步驟就是評估風險，也就是究竟他們識別出來的這些風險，它的可能性和發生之後的嚴重危害程度，是不是有達到高風險這個等級。","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T09:54:17.464000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:54:37.646000+08:00","text":"最後就是請各部會去盤點，在風險識別和評估的結果底下，現有的法律和政策工具是不是足夠因應，如果不夠因應的話，是不是要進行修法，或是要提供新的政策工具。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T09:54:40.248000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:54:48.276000+08:00","text":"這整個措施跟步驟，我們現在在國科會的支持下已經開始跟各部會進行非常積極的協作。","quality":0.892},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T09:54:50.958000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:55:06.028000+08:00","text":"我相信委員也能夠理解，在各個不同的部會裡面，其實AI應用的程度是相當不一樣的，他們對AI的理解還有風險的識別也都不太一樣。","quality":1},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T09:55:06.228000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:55:13.671000+08:00","text":"目前我們跟勞動部、衛福部還有金管會都已經開始進行協作。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T09:55:16.073000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:55:17.333000+08:00","text":"關於修法的部分……","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:55:18.775000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:55:20.256000+08:00","text":"現在討論到修法，就相關的子法我沒有說什麼時候要出來，但至少說明一下照你們的規劃，子法的草案什麼時候會出來以及相關的盤點進度到哪裡，我是在詢問這個。","quality":0.574},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T09:55:34.906000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:55:46.354000+08:00","text":"好，國科會其實已經有請各部會做初步的盤點，但是也請委員能夠理解，因為AI的運用還有技術一直在不斷地變動當中……","quality":0.56},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:55:46.474000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:55:47.795000+08:00","text":"所以還在盤點當中？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T09:55:48.335000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:55:52.819000+08:00","text":"我們可能要持續性地跟您做階段性的報告，因為……","quality":0.65},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:55:53.319000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:55:57.342000+08:00","text":"可不可以針對目前盤點得如何先給我一份書面報告？","quality":0.591},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:55:58.903000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:56:00.063000+08:00","text":"因為時間的關係……好。","quality":0.375},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:56:01.773000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:56:31.507000+08:00","text":"接下來檢視AI各層面的議題，因為很清楚地，它跨足了科研端、應用端，其實學科也不僅僅侷限在科技領域，它甚至還有法學的問題，這個侯次長可能最清楚，還有社會學的問題，所以本席認為中研院跟國科會在學研方面應該清楚奠基AI跨領域研究的基礎理論，來引領研究者投入更深的研究。","quality":0.901},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:56:32.288000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:56:42.002000+08:00","text":"想要請教中研院還有國科會，未來在AI這個基礎的研究上，會呈現什麼樣的跨領域研究？","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:56:43.024000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:56:43.604000+08:00","text":"會建立什麼樣的學門？","quality":1},{"speaker":"彭副院長信坤","start":"2026-04-29T09:56:46.323000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:56:47.183000+08:00","text":"謝謝林委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"彭副院長信坤","start":"2026-04-29T09:56:47.183000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:57:02.772000+08:00","text":"這一點我想我們要再做訓練，剛才在報告裡面提到，我們要跨領域，比如人文學者過去不懂AI，現在我們就要訓練他，我們也一直在開很多的課程，請他們的助理也要去上課。","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"彭副院長信坤","start":"2026-04-29T09:57:03.512000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:57:11.256000+08:00","text":"另外也有請我們院內的資訊人員協助他們做AI方面的訓練，從這兩方面來做。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:57:13.217000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:57:15.078000+08:00","text":"好，有一直在努力就對了。對。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:57:16.059000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:57:32.351000+08:00","text":"我想在AI浪潮襲捲全球的這個時刻，我們各學科的領域都有人深入研究，像清大的林勤富教授，在中研院的法學期刊有撰文分析歐盟的AI基本法。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:57:33.051000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:57:55.313000+08:00","text":"接續我前面提到的法制問題，本席認為國科會跟中研院真的應該很努力地來進行實證的研究，在AI這個議題上提供具體的修法跟立法建議，讓學研跟修法可以持續交流對話，進而可以被司法作為裁判的依據。","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:57:56.394000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:58:00.915000+08:00","text":"我們回到這次的主題之一，就是學門的建構與應用。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:58:01.496000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:58:34.417000+08:00","text":"本席認為，在這邊相關學門的建構最後指向的其實是應用，重點就在實際應用，所以本席作為一個立法者，我的幕僚常常在研讀各種法學的研究成果，也參考相關修法的建議來提出修法，所以本席要在這裡具體建議，AI的法律研究應該要突破單純的分析比較法視野，就如同我前面所說的，要跟立法實務有更多的對話。","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-04-29T09:58:34.917000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:5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