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謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:01:53.049000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:01:58.957000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，請數發部及國科會。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:01:59.157000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:01:59.919000+08:00","text":"請數發部及國科會到備詢臺。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:02:11.630000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:02:40.999000+08:00","text":"首先請教數發部侯次長，這幾天高德地圖引起很多的討論，數發部也有做了公開回應，對於公部門跟國軍禁用高德地圖，我是相當支持，因為我認為至少有兩點隱憂：第一個，高德地圖的定位是使用中國的北斗衛星系統；第二個，目前中國的法律是要求民間公司要配合政府蒐集資料，這對臺灣來說是相當大的風險。","quality":0.961},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:02:41.119000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:03:11.466000+08:00","text":"剛剛前面柯志恩委員質詢的時候要求你們對於各國的各種軟體系統、app的標準要一視同仁，我反對，中國的這些系統軟體、app因為中國法律的關係，其實對臺灣來說是有特別高的風險，所以當然不能一視同仁，反倒我們應該要專案的審慎應對。","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:03:11.666000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:03:16.788000+08:00","text":"我要先請國科會來協助說明的是，中國的北斗衛星系統是什麼樣的系統？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員炳宇","start":"2026-04-29T11:03:17.188000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:03:18.668000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，就我們了解，這應該是比較類似於GPS的定位系統。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:03:25.923000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:03:42.871000+08:00","text":"對，GPS的定位系統，這個是中國自主發展的衛星系統，它新一代的導航系統代表了中國在太空領域上一個很戰略性的突破，除了民用之外，很重要的是它包括了軍用。","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:03:43.971000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:04:12.876000+08:00","text":"我們看到臺灣的軍方相關研究單位做了很多的研究，像國防安全研究院的資料告訴我們，北斗衛星系統從研發開始就有中共解放軍總參謀部的參與跟支持，中共的官媒更直接說，北斗的軍事應用是最迫切的需求，例如洲際飛彈、無人機或智慧水雷。","quality":0.98},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:04:13.897000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:04:34.073000+08:00","text":"臺灣國防大學的黃埔學報也有一個研究提到，中國北斗系統導航系統的建立，相當於是中共在太空中建構一套偵測平臺，有利於中共執行各種作戰任務時破除戰爭迷霧。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:04:34.433000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:04:43.586000+08:00","text":"也就是說，在戰爭當中，假設GPS被破壞了，大家看不到，但是中國因為有北斗衛星系統，他們看得到，他們有眼睛。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:04:45.592000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:05:13.508000+08:00","text":"中國為了加速北斗衛星的發展，不只是這一套系統而已，他們甚至打造了北斗產業鏈，中國的工業和資訊化部在2022年有發表聲明，依照中共黨中央、國務院的決策與部署，要將大眾的消費領域打造成北斗規模化應用的動力引擎，並且要培育20家以上的企業樹立一批應用的典型樣板。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:05:14.528000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:05:35.774000+08:00","text":"也就是說，民生消費的應用，也是我們剛剛講的中國這一套北斗衛星發展的重要引擎，而我們講的高德地圖就是在北斗衛星產業鏈、中國的紅色軍事產業鏈當中，也就是剛剛講的培育20家以上企業的其中一家。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:05:37.434000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:05:54.403000+08:00","text":"我要講的是，這個高德地圖我們真的要謹慎來看待，這個部分當然有些是國防部跟國安會他們要處理的，但今天是數發部的備詢，所以我們還是要回到技術跟資安來請教。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:05:55.763000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:06:09.987000+08:00","text":"現在這個高德地圖顯然是要回傳它的定位資訊嘛，技術上，這一些定位資訊如果整合起來，比如說使用者如果夠多的話，是不是有可能可以用來分析我們臺灣人的生活樣態？","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:06:09.987000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:06:16.270000+08:00","text":"例如說車流、人流、社會行為的分析等等，有沒有可能做這樣的應用分析？","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T11:06:16.951000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:06:28.345000+08:00","text":"是，就它能夠取得的資料確實是有可能，不僅是整體的社會樣態，甚至到個別用戶的生活型態，我們認為都是會有風險的。","quality":0.98},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:06:28.965000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:06:44.777000+08:00","text":"是，它蒐集的資料本身有風險，剛剛我們也有提到，依據中國的法律，中國網路安全法、中國國家情報法有規定，任何組織和公民依法必須要提供這些資料給中國政府，所以我們是非常的擔心。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:06:45.197000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:07:00.846000+08:00","text":"在中國，就算高德地圖是隸屬於阿里巴巴集團，但是連馬雲近年在中國也都遭受到政府強烈的打壓，中國的企業可以說是沒有自由可言，所以當然我們要特別謹慎的來看待。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:07:01.427000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:07:05.709000+08:00","text":"所以第一步我們現在要釐清的是，它到底會回傳哪些資訊？","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:07:06.289000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:07:11.853000+08:00","text":"數發部資安署說會去進行資安檢測，請問目前會檢測的項目有哪些呢？","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T11:07:14.257000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:07:21.374000+08:00","text":"會檢測的項目包括敏感性的資訊，這些檢測項目，我請資安署副署長來做說明。","quality":0.531},{"speaker":"鄭副署長瑋","start":"2026-04-29T11:07:23.649000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:07:30.891000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，高德地圖目前已經送資安院在檢測當中，預計5月會出來。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭副署長瑋","start":"2026-04-29T11:07:31.031000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:07:47.114000+08:00","text":"剛才委員所垂詢的檢測項目，包含它即時是讀取哪些資料，或者是它越過當初使用者允許的權限再去翻看通話紀錄，甚至是健康紀錄等等。","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"鄭副署長瑋","start":"2026-04-29T11:07:47.894000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:08:04.324000+08:00","text":"再來就是它會不會未經授權就把這些資料傳到境外、中國的伺服器，剛剛委員有提到，既然是傳到中國的伺服器，就歸中國的法律來管，就有可能可以取用到我們人民的生活軌跡資料。","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"鄭副署長瑋","start":"2026-04-29T11:08:05.024000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:08:21.317000+08:00","text":"除了這些之外，我覺得還有一項比較重要的是，這個設備的裝置、每個device，手機裡面可能會有一些ID，這些ID也可能會被做記號，有下載過這些app的民眾有可能就被註記了。","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"鄭副署長瑋","start":"2026-04-29T11:08:21.757000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:08:37.851000+08:00","text":"所以簡單來說，我們會檢測有沒有偷看使用者的資料，有沒有偷翻使用者的資料，其他app或其他儲存裝置裡面的，或者是偷送資料出去，最後還有被做記號等等的行為，我們會去做檢測。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:08:38.612000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:08:42.075000+08:00","text":"所以它是有可能偷看、偷翻，甚至註記等等，有可能有這樣風險存在？是。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:08:42.135000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:08:46.678000+08:00","text":"因為這是資安的專業，就要拜託數發部依專業來進行檢測，如同我們剛剛所提到的，中國跟世界上其他民主國家都不一樣，它的法律規定對臺灣來說有特別高的風險，所以請你們一定要特別謹慎去對待。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:08:47.239000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:08:47.239000+08:00","text":"副署長，謝謝。謝謝。","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:09:02.871000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:09:56.347000+08:00","text":"尤其是近期還有一案，這個目前還不到數發部，現在是公平會在審，就是中國的外送平臺Grab，想要透過併購的方式進入臺灣，哇，這個真的讓人相當的擔憂，已經有民間團體在分析，因為Grab是外送平臺嘛，未來如果有數百萬的外送員跟司機，然後透過這個GPS的軌跡即時回報，它是可以持續的去修正地圖，我們訂過外送的人都知道，是會到巷弄之間非常細的地理的資料，所以我們非常擔心中國的系統如果進入臺灣，這些資安對臺灣人所造成的風險，因為這一案目前是在公平會審查當中，我們也會嚴格的去監督，要拜託數發部，針對目前這個高德地圖，一定要依據你們的專業去進行資安的檢測。謝謝。","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T11:09:56.347000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:09:57.347000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:09:56.347000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:09:56.687000+08:00","text":"因為時間有限，國科會先請回。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:09:56.947000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:10:11.156000+08:00","text":"接下來我就快速的來請教數發部，我很關心GPU的算力，過去在這裡也曾質詢過，去年我們臺灣主權AI訓練的語料庫在12月已經上線了嘛，語料庫當然要持續擴充，可是我們的算力擴充也很重要，本來是不是數發部有預計要買100片的GPU，結果去年後來……因為……","quality":0.907},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:10:22.202000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:10:26.643000+08:00","text":"是不是因為立法院預算審查的關係，預算被砍了，後來沒有買？","quality":1},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T11:10:26.643000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:10:32.445000+08:00","text":"是，去年因為預算被刪減的關係，就沒有購買，沒有辦法建這個算力。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:10:33.005000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:10:35.066000+08:00","text":"本來我們是預計要買100片嘛！是。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:10:35.206000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:10:50.751000+08:00","text":"因為我看了你們3月在交通委員會的質詢，有國民黨的委員質詢時提到這個GPU不是說要買嗎，怎麼還沒有買，應該要加速來建置，然後他們說他們並沒有刪除預算，但是你們說預算有被刪除，所以沒有買，是因為什麼原因？","quality":0.934},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T11:10:53.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:10:56.296000+08:00","text":"就我所知，就是預算刪除的關係。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:10:56.456000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:11:36.948000+08:00","text":"我看了一下，因為上次在審預算的時候，交通委員會其實只刪了3.2億，後來到政黨協商的時候，對數發部又通刪了20億，其實我在當時也是一直主張，立法院是監督單位，審查預算時可以刪預算，可是不要用通刪的方式，因為你不知道會刪了什麼項目，然後通刪沒有監督的理由，要刪減預算應該是要依據所看到的狀況，例如我們真的認為某個計畫的執行率不好或是預算不需要那麼高，才來進行刪減，但是用通刪的方式，結果變成當時通刪了20億，而刪除的委員到今天不知道他自己刪掉了這100片GPU的預算。","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:11:38.109000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:11:45.597000+08:00","text":"去年，堂堂中華民國臺灣的數發部，本來要買100片的GPU，坦白說，100片都很少了，不是嗎？","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:11:45.597000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:11:50.283000+08:00","text":"其他國家要建立AI算力中心，上萬片可能都不夠，結果我們連100片都沒錢買，我們國家有這麼窮嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:11:50.283000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:11:59.862000+08:00","text":"所以要拜託數發部，因為馬上又要開始審查預算，你們今年是不是有續編GPU的預算？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T11:11:59.862000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:12:00.862000+08:00","text":"有，今年有編。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:12:00.462000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:12:00.903000+08:00","text":"今年一樣是預計要購買100片？對。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:12:00.923000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:12:01.903000+08:00","text":"要拜託你們多跟不同黨派的委員來溝通。","quality":1},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T11:12:02.023000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:12:02.404000+08:00","text":"是，我們會非常努力。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-04-29T11:12:02.424000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:12:03.765000+08:00","text":"這個算力對臺灣來講真的很重要，要拜託你們加強溝通，謝謝你們，謝謝主席。","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"侯次長宜秀","start":"2026-04-29T11:12:03.825000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:12:03.845000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:12:04.345000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:12:08.630714+08:00","text":"謝謝吳沛憶委員的質詢，請官員回座。","quality":0.133},{"speaker":"主席（郭委員昱晴代）","start":"2026-04-29T11:12:08.930714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:12:11.502143+08:00","text":"接下來請伍麗華召委。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}