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上個禮拜五月十七號發生一件很嚴重的國際事件就是我們阿拉伯聯合大公國的巴拉卡核電廠他遭到了無人機襲擊在五月十七號的上午那這個無人機的攻擊造成什麼結果他導致這一座核電廠的發電機起火這個事件國際上包括俄羅斯包括美國都來去譴責"},{"start":44.667,"end":71.905,"text":"因为它在起源关联就是因为跟中东冲突有关的攻击事件那么无人机攻击核电厂它造成的后果有可能非常的严重那这起案件还好是没有伤亡的报告国际原子能总署对这个案件它特别向联合国提出了声明在这个声明当中我们看到几个警示跟提醒第一个它是说这个案件它是一座运作中的核电厂"},{"start":72.685,"end":94.486,"text":"那它的反應爐儲存的有數千公斤的核燃料那裡面也包括沒使用過跟使用過的倘若被攻擊直接命中的話它可能會導致大量的放射線物質釋放到環境當中但是就算它不是直接命中它如果是攻擊到它的供電線路"},{"start":96.147,"end":123.666,"text":"例如說發電機造成供電的斷電的話他有可能會因為核電廠無法運作沒有辦法冷卻所以會造成他的這個反應爐的這個核心可能會有融毀這樣的風險那麼這個國際衛生總署還說了他說如果最壞的情況下會需要來疏散跟安置居民這個範圍可能是數公里甚至是數百公里的範圍之內都要來安置跟疏散"},{"start":124.306,"end":148.214,"text":"那我們台灣核安會當然是主管是我們核能安全我們核安會針對核電廠的這個如果是面對無人機的這種恐攻我們是不是也有這個保安防恐的演練的計畫呢是的目前這個計畫是怎麼樣來進行例如說一年做幾次然後包含哪些項目有沒有疏算跟安置計畫等等能不能說明請"},{"start":150.948,"end":170.289,"text":"跟委員說明一下針對核電廠它每年都會做就是保安的反恐點每年一次每年都有每一座核電廠都會做每一座都有那它有兵棋推演跟實兵的演練那目前無人機的這種就是應對都已經納在裡面那電廠目前的就是核子保"},{"start":170.869,"end":191.559,"text":"核子保安的計畫也都有把遇到這樣事情的一個應變作業他有去盤點他可能遭遇的狀況然後可能的風險以及他的應對措施那都有透過就是歷年來的研習去做一個精進這樣那至於就是委員剛剛關心的如果發生核子事故之後場外民眾的這個疏散那因為電廠廠內他也有"},{"start":194.901,"end":221.939,"text":"紧急应变计划那我们场外就跟地方政府也有一起合作做紧急应变的一个计划跟演练所以每年的核安演习都会做相关的一个场外民众的防护行动演练是这个非常重要那么刚刚讲到说倘若这种情况要疏散跟安置的话在你们演练计划当中如果以核一核二场来说因为这里台北太近了就在新北我们是安置到哪里疏散到哪边"},{"start":222.919,"end":237.116,"text":"有沒有相關的計畫大概可以就是安置多少人數以合一合二來說因為新北市跟基隆市他們都有他們的核子事故區域民眾防護計畫那所以針對就是合一狹內的居民跟就是"},{"start":237.637,"end":267.037,"text":"新北市就是緊急應變計劃區內的居民跟基隆市的他們都有對應的一個疏散安置的地點那像新北市它通常都會在16公里外就是距離核電廠16公里外的區域那新北市它會目前的因為它會分離就是不同的離別它有對應到它先規劃一個疏散地點那包括疏散過程中的那個路線以新北來說我們之前的演練我們疏散的人數是估計多少的人數"},{"start":268.437,"end":285.548,"text":"過去新北的演練人數嘛因為整體的那個演練人數之前有幾千人但是可能不是全部都是疏散作業但會看他的就是因為以這個國際事件來講齁就是幾千人我想一定是不夠的那這個沒有關係能不能夠這個質詢會後"},{"start":287.629,"end":303.823,"text":"來去提供我們這更細部的資料那未來我們也希望這相關的這些演練有一些民眾必須要知道的資訊也可以要來去公開因為這核能安全民眾非常的關心那請核安會在這個部分一定要去把它做好那同時我也想提醒因為今天就在今天我們裁員會正在審我們軍購的預算其實呢這個國防安全也就關係了我們的核能安全"},{"start":311.69,"end":321.372,"text":"一個人這個事件來講我們一定要有這個我們國防的能力所以這個也要拜託我們立法院的同仁關心核案大家要一起來支持那最後因為還有一點時間我想要請教在這個我們有一個這個核安會的風險評估這個總表行政院要求我們來做的那我裡面有看到的是你們有提到說有一個風險你們把它列為風險項目跟風險的情境"},{"start":336.795,"end":348.058,"text":"就是說你們之前的有一個預算的項目就是遭到我們立法院的刪除有一個研究計畫是關於這個核能減災的這個研究計畫你們把它列為說因為這個之前預算遭到立法院的刪除所以它成為你們扣管風險表裡面的這個風險項目跟風險情境之一你們說明這是什麼樣的計畫那我們預算收到的什麼樣的這個刪減"},{"start":368.404,"end":395.686,"text":"我想這幾個第一個是有關於我們柴油發電機洩漏的事件這裡已經根據風險管控第一個建立標準作業領域我沒有問你那個桃園的那個事件我問你那個最後就是你剛講的這個核能減災的研究計畫預算刪除這一個案就說明這一案就好了在你那個風險管控的總表當中"},{"start":398.501,"end":419.845,"text":"跟委員報告一下那個風險管控就是說我們預想最壞的情況我們要有最好的因應所以包括任何可能的狀況我們都要去思考說會不會對這個計畫造成影響所以不管說三減計畫或者是計畫執行不利什麼這都是我們會設想它是我們這個計畫執行的風險對沒錯因為我想減災也是非常的重要那麼因為馬上也要這個審查預算了"},{"start":424.946,"end":445.816,"text":"所以我要拜託你們因為立法院不應該是核能安全的風險我們應該是要來核能安全支持的後盾才對拜託你們可以多加的跟我們委員來說明我們希望這個預算能夠在你們有充足然後可以執行的情況下來進行謝謝委員支持謝謝吳佩儀委員的質詢請主委回座下一位有請"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:46:52.437000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:46:52.637000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:46:52.897000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:46:54.178000+08:00","text":"我請核安會主委。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-25T09:46:55.019000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:46:55.700000+08:00","text":"請核安會主委。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:47:02.032000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:47:02.312000+08:00","text":"主委好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳主任委員明真","start":"2026-05-25T09:47:02.312000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-25T09:47:03.312000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:47:03.293000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:47:14.299000+08:00","text":"上個禮拜5月17日上午發生一件很嚴重的國際事件，就是阿拉伯聯合大公國的巴拉卡核電廠遭到無人機襲擊。","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:47:16.581000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:47:18.562000+08:00","text":"這個無人機的攻擊造成什麼結果？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:47:19.242000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:47:30.949000+08:00","text":"它導致這一座核電廠的發電機起火，這個事件國際上包括俄羅斯、美國都有譴責，因為攻擊事件的起源就是跟中東衝突有關。","quality":0.784},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:47:31.670000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:47:42.236000+08:00","text":"無人機攻擊核電廠造成的後果有可能非常地嚴重，這起案件還好是沒有傷亡的報告。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:47:43.097000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:47:50.722000+08:00","text":"國際原子能總署對這個案件特別向聯合國提出了聲明，在這個聲明當中我們看到幾個警示跟提醒。","quality":0.585},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:47:51.162000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:48:33.377000+08:00","text":"第一個，它說這個案件是一座在運作中的核電廠，它的反應爐儲存著數千公斤的核燃料，裡面包括沒使用過的跟使用過的，倘若被攻擊，直接命中的話，可能會導致大量的放射性物質釋放到環境當中，但就算不是直接命中，如果是攻擊到它的供電線路，例如發電機，造成供電斷電的話，有可能會因為核電廠無法運作，沒有辦法冷卻，造成反應爐爐心可能會有熔毀的風險。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:48:35.298000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:48:46.646000+08:00","text":"國際原子能總署還說了，在最壞的情況下，會需要疏散跟安置居民，這個範圍可能是數公里，甚至是數百公里內都要安置跟疏散。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:48:47.826000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:49:02.651000+08:00","text":"在我們臺灣，核安會當然是主管我們的核能安全，針對核電廠面對無人機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沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:53:03.994000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:53:18.666000+08:00","text":"院長，我現在沒有問你桃園的那個事件，我問的是你剛剛講的核能減災研究計畫預算刪除的這一個案子，說明這案就好了，這個在你的風險管控的總表當中。","quality":0.828},{"speaker":"李組長綺思","start":"2026-05-25T09:53:21.501000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:53:41.285000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，風險管控就是我們預想最壞的情況，我們要有最好的因應，所以包括任何可能的狀況我們都要去思考會不會對這個計畫造成影響，所以不管刪減計畫或是計畫執行不力之類，這都是我們會設想它是我們這個計畫執行的風險。","quality":0.959},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:53:41.285000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:53:42.205000+08:00","text":"對，沒錯，因為我想減災也是非常的重要。是。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-25T09:53:42.545000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:54:02.933000+08:00","text":"馬上要審查預算了，所以我要拜託你們，因為立法院不應該是核能安全的風險，我們應該要當支持核能安全的後盾才對，拜託你們可以多加地跟我們委員說明，我們希望這個預算能夠讓你們在充足、可以執行的情況下來進行，謝謝主委，謝謝主席。","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"李組長綺思","start":"2026-05-25T09:54:02.933000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:54:03.313000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員支持。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-25T09:54:04.814000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:54:06.995000+08:00","text":"謝謝吳沛憶委員的質詢，請主委回座。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-25T09:54:07.875000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T09:54:08.816000+08:00","text":"下一位有請吳思瑤委員進行詢答。","quality":0.357}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}