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染才你们是有在想办法的这个部分我还是要肯定也支持但是我们能不能做更多我们还有什么可以去加强这个部分呢目前除了上次你们我有问到的就是新增公费留考的项目呢目前有的就是关于清大河公所呢"},{"start":392.222,"end":420.808,"text":"核安會現在有做內部培訓針對同仁開這個受核能安全課程我想請教一下那現在內部同仁對這個課程的報名的狀況以及你們做這樣的課程你們的目標是什麼報名非常踴躍有40多位同仁報名他的目標是能夠取得慶華大學核子工程碩士學位的這個學程"},{"start":421.974,"end":439,"text":"所以其實在我們內部對這樣的課程也是覺得說十分有這個需求也是很踴躍的那這個部分也是要肯定主委您的用心在這邊我要再強調不管核電未來的走向到底是存貨費或者說我們其他有其他的發展"},{"start":439.98,"end":457.237,"text":"其实人才都是我们最重要的资产尤其像国际间对于整个核能的这个运用及研究是非常的盛行所以相关的研究也十分的需要这些相关的核工人才来进行但有一点就是核能的"},{"start":458.058,"end":485.559,"text":"薪資待遇我想會是人才流向一個意願的關鍵我國的合工人才薪資在國際間可能比較中段比較後段這個對於人才的延攬、留任是有一定的衝擊希望核安會這邊你們可以很謹慎來思考而且一定要編列相關的預算人才培育的預算希望能繼續來充實我國合工的人才這個部分主委你怎麼回應"},{"start":486.64,"end":508.297,"text":"對,我們一直往這方面向走,實際上我們全世界在做這方面的事情因為我們確實有很多年沒有進入和根輪才,沒有在文化園就有這種狀況所以我們盡全力培養這方面人,從外面招考也好,從內部培養也好,全力在增加這方面的訓練"},{"start":510.182,"end":535.011,"text":"核安會不是只為了核電而存在核安會所管的相關的核能的發展核能的安全還有剛才我提到像這個X光機這個安全上使用上這個都是核能相關的這些都是核能的專業都是我們核安會你們有這樣子的專業來規範它而且相關的這個核工人才呢未來對於國際上的這個"},{"start":537.873,"end":553.76,"text":"发展趋势我们也要跟得上脚步我们也要相关我们这样的人才的储备来因应未来世界的潮流所以这个部分呢我请主委也请我们和安会能够持续的来努力好的谢谢主委好谢谢委员关键好谢谢秀宝委员的"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T10:58:14+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-25T10:58:15+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T10:58:14.513000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T10:58:14.695000+08:00","text":"請核安會陳主委。","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-25T10:58:14.775000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T10:58:14.916000+08:00","text":"請陳主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T10:58:14.916000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-25T10:58:19.714500+08:00","text":"主委好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳主任委員明真","start":"2026-05-25T10:58:19.714500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-25T10:58:24.513000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T10:58:24.513000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T10:58:48.803000+08:00","text":"首先，我們先就核能廠的安全來進行相關的詢答，去年3月的時候核三廠有發生火警，所幸當時沒有造成任何的災情，而當時有調查起火的原因，是廠商切割鐵材的火花引燃了旁邊的塑膠物品，才過1年，核二廠又發生火警。","quality":0.697},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T10:58:49.763000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T10:58:55.726000+08:00","text":"主委，請問一下，這次核二廠火警的起火原因你們調查出來了嗎？有的。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"高組長斌","start":"2026-05-25T10:58:57.166000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T10:59:06.550000+08:00","text":"跟委員說明，初步是因為線路絕緣劣化，確切的原因消防單位還在調查當中。","quality":0.839},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T10:59:06.931000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T10:59:08.171000+08:00","text":"他們會做火調就對了。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T10:59:09.492000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T10:59:15.234000+08:00","text":"核電廠接連發生火警意外，核安會你們有沒有要求台電要檢討他們的疏失？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"高組長斌","start":"2026-05-25T10:59:17.764000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T10:59:35.602000+08:00","text":"跟委員說明，確實從去年3月6日跟今年5月14日，雖然地點不同，我們已經要求台電公司針對核電廠，包括核一、二、三廠全廠的防護範圍、改善措施或因應措施要提出一個完整的檢討。","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T10:59:35.602000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T10:59:37.384000+08:00","text":"所以你們有要求台電要做。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T10:59:38.525000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T11:00:07.608000+08:00","text":"核電廠連年發生火警意外，其實會讓民眾覺得核電的安全有疑慮，他們會覺得為什麼核電廠會失火，當然失火的原因跟核電機組本身沒有關係，但是在核電廠發生這樣的狀況就會讓民眾有高度的疑慮，雖然現在核電機組目前沒有在運轉，但是我們核電廠裡面還有高階的核廢料以及使用過的燃料棒，所以安全是不能輕忽的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T11:00:08.008000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T11:00:12.591000+08:00","text":"我希望你們可以提供檢討安全環境防護的書面報告，全面來檢視核電廠廠區的安全，這可以嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳主任委員明真","start":"2026-05-25T11:00:20.337000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T11:00:20.597000+08:00","text":"可以的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T11:00:20.937000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T11:00:23.799000+08:00","text":"提供這樣的報告給委員會的每一個委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳主任委員明真","start":"2026-05-25T11:00:23.799000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T11:00:24.059000+08:00","text":"可以的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T11:00:24.560000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T11:00:25.861000+08:00","text":"那多久可以提供？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳主任委員明真","start":"2026-05-25T11:00:25.861000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-25T11:00:27.739000+08:00","text":"1個月內。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T11:00:27.739000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-25T11:00:29.617000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T11:00:29.617000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T11:00:46.770000+08:00","text":"接下來我想要請教主委，近期牙醫公會正在爭取放寬手持式牙科X光機的法規限制，希望可以免除必須設置專屬X光室來執行X光檢查的規定。","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25T11:00:47.531000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-25T11:01:16.129000+08:00","text":"會有這樣的考量主要是現在有一些比較特殊的醫療需求，像長照機構、偏鄉巡迴、居家到宅的醫療需求，還有身心障礙病患的服務，長者可能移動不便，不可能在偏鄉這邊有這樣子的設施，有一些身心障礙對象也相關需求，如果移動的話也是有一些風險產生。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-25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