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謝謝"},{"start":301.271,"end":313.48,"text":"好這部分就希望說中選會跟衛福部可以盡快合作你們可以呃公開交標啊或者是跟這一些復康巴士等等的團體合作讓想要去投票的人都能夠去投票那那最後一點時間呃那好沒關係時間來不及那我是這邊是希望說呃還有時間好哎太好了"},{"start":320.766,"end":338.692,"text":"那我這邊是建議說由主委這個其實你在交接典禮的時候你至此有提到說面對假訊息是所有民主國家如臨大敵這是你的用詞那也覺得說這個因應身衛的訊息可能會左右選情傷害選舉的公平性是絕對不可忽視的課題"},{"start":340.493,"end":361.038,"text":"那這個我也非常認同因為其實今年年初日本的獨賣新聞他們也有做一個專題報導說這個中共借選的方式是他們講的很詳細包括說深層式的AI然後甚至是在台灣他們會偽造台灣腔然後使用台灣的習慣的語言然後用輿情監控的系統來介入台灣的選舉"},{"start":362.458,"end":378.787,"text":"那甚至也有提直接提到說2018年在高雄的韓流其實就是一個使用這樣方式借選很明顯的例子那我在這邊想要請教的是我們做好準備了嗎請問這樣中共因應中共借選我們到底有沒有任何的"},{"start":379.407,"end":398.22,"text":"防備有沒有任何主動出擊還是說永遠都要等到傷害已經造成了永遠都要等到說這個漫天的謠言都已經在所有人的LINE的群組跟手機出現這一些圖卡跟影片之後然後才跟你們通報讓你們被動的澄清那澄清之後也來不及了呢"},{"start":402.029,"end":425.248,"text":"這個身為訊息對選舉結果所造成的傷害是非常非常大而且幾乎是不可逆的那美國日本歐洲這些先進民主國家都是有這樣的一個感覺所以我們是如臨大敵啦那剛剛我也提到其實目前"},{"start":426.289,"end":440.677,"text":"中選會也好法務部國安單位應該都已經開始著手去研擬相關的有效的措施但是目前都還在研議的過程但就這件事情我們不會放鬆的"},{"start":441.428,"end":469.274,"text":"好在這邊直接給一個建議啦其實韓國他們有在選舉期間直接成立一個網路專責小組就是主動出擊每天掃24小時掃然後看到說這個很明顯是假訊息的他們就會直接請數位專家來鑑定然後鑑定完之後就直接下架了絕對不會說等他蔓延等他擴散然後傷害已經造成了那這個結果都已經這個澄清也都太慢了那這個其實就於事無補環不濟急啊謝謝黃委員這個提議我們來研究辦理"},{"start":471.334,"end":471.895,"text":"好 這個要拜託 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