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你看你們7月7號到現在預防性下架7月8號就今天晚上12點以前全面下架完畢到底有多少品項"},{"start":444.585,"end":463.621,"text":"我不知道252項是我們昨天發布的剛剛我最新上來我查新聞有到401項那個又是新增的沒有錯嘛所以我們現在講的是說那什麼時候你看從7月3號7月5號257家到7月7號360家到現在401品項那會不會你明天下午2點再跟我們講說其實500其實600"},{"start":473.564,"end":489.985,"text":"我就說我今天要出來之前我太太跟我講啊就說上個月我們現在大家暑假的時候也都會想說小朋友食慾比較不好我們買個涼筍來做沙拉結果我們買的那個沙拉一樣是有中獎啊一樣就是在你的這個規範裡面啊"},{"start":492.574,"end":509.248,"text":"而這是什麼這是擠牙膏式的一天一天一天告訴國人所以我想請教一下現在到底不管是南橋泰山還是中聯他們有沒有完整交代他們的下游廠商名單讓我們食藥署所掌握那如果有掌握的話為什麼還要擠牙膏式"},{"start":510.492,"end":533.87,"text":"跟委員說明就是廠商的流向的部分是掌握現在是在盤點他做成的商品第一層的這個油都已經是下架都回收這個都沒有問題是在下一層第二層的那個商品的部分那持續的在盤查所以在盤點完之後我們就會公布公布公布這樣所以到目前為止還沒有盤查完畢"},{"start":536.246,"end":556.706,"text":"就已經發生了一個禮拜八天的時間從上個禮拜三爆發這個事件6月30號爆發這個事件到今天7月7號了7月8號了還沒有盤查完畢因為它涉及到360家然後要往下去查它這個360家做成的商品所以這個確實它複雜度比較高部長"},{"start":561.425,"end":575.828,"text":"什麼時候可以告訴國人這一波如果說你連第四月的這一批你都還沒有辦法探查完畢你今天又講說有第五批疑似也有驗出這個致癌物質那第五月的咧現在出去了多少"},{"start":577.792,"end":604.939,"text":"這個5月我們現在在查另外有一個這個昨天這個接貨到檢驗結果的那我們會把它照這個這個流向走不過流向走大概也都是這都是這些嘛因為都是公會都是這些對這樣嘛對不對那5月有多少噸現在在確認他最後的噸數啦還沒有確認嗎因為他要跟地方一起去查這個都是要跟地方衛生局共同去查的"},{"start":607.737,"end":630.763,"text":"P號已經知道啦 已經知道那個P號是多少我說實在話啦 我不知道是 你現在 我還是良心的建議啊該讓國人知道的 讓國人知道好好的說清楚 比一點一點吉牙膏社來的讓國人能夠心安啦然後也不要想著就說 哎呦 颱風要來了也許颱風來了之後 大家關心的議題不在這邊了哎呦 這頭過身就過"},{"start":632.603,"end":661.383,"text":"沒有這回事啊 食品安全衛生是食品安全衛生是大家所關注的就不容許任何的打折今天捲台兩千三百五十萬人不會有人不會分黨派吃到或不吃到這件事情也不是黨派之分而是大家到底看這個中央政府的態度是什麼還有我某種程度上某種程度上是認為是說你今天你要負起你應該要負責任 沒有錯但更重要的是行政院院長"},{"start":662.677,"end":689.994,"text":"因為衛福只有衛福部的事情嗎教育部沒有責任嗎營養午餐裡面有沒有參加相關的這些致癌油國防部經濟部產業沒有相關嗎啊結果上個禮拜你還會避嫌你還會禮拜六本來說要去新竹好生活然後結果你後來沒去嘛是不是那結果換經濟部長去"},{"start":691.926,"end":715.667,"text":"是怎樣教育部經濟部沒有他們的事國防部這些部會誰管的不是你行政院嗎所以我想我們為什麼今天會那麼的生氣跟憤怒是因為看到了一個事情爆發可能是業者他沒有控管好他隱匿拖延時間沒有通報"},{"start":717.399,"end":744.524,"text":"業者有問題但是看到中央主管機關還到一個禮拜多了沒有完全的掌握你們的責任難救但更重要的是上頭的一個態度好像覺得說這就是衛福部的事情就推一個石崇良出來嘛石崇良沒有派系啊石崇良這個公務體系出身的啊跟我們這個派系也不搭的啊你被罵啊今天早上"},{"start":745.949,"end":769.305,"text":"綠營委員也就是來幾個 反正你被包圍嘛最好最後動為求生這一個防火牆啊會不會有石叢樑防火牆我們持續的在做各項的盤查來確保現在油品在市面上的安全 請大家放心不要只講好聽話 就如同第一章最後再讓大家看一下 齊文共賞"},{"start":771.848,"end":792.667,"text":"從源頭守護食安加強跨部會資源整合這些文章再擺出來就是再再的讓國人覺得你現在中央政府的態度就是全都推給衛福部完全沒有跨部會的資源整合而源頭管理徹底失禮以上 謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:15:45.714000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:15:49.836000+08:00","text":"主席，麻煩請衛福部石部長。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:15:49.836000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:15:50.276000+08:00","text":"好，請石部長。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:15:50.276000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:15:56.138000+08:00","text":"洪委員好。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:15:56.138000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:16:03.081000+08:00","text":"石部長，就事論事，我知道一整天了，但是國人要的是真相，要的是釐清事實，所以還是一樣看一下。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:16:05.102000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:16:11.125000+08:00","text":"食安會報第2次辦理的時候是6月24日，對不對？","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:16:13.987000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:16:17.733000+08:00","text":"今年6月24日卓院長才主持食安會報，那時候他講什麼？","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:16:17.733000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:16:18.174000+08:00","text":"他說：落實各項監測從源頭守護食安、強化跨部會整合。","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:16:25.530000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:16:33.098000+08:00","text":"他裡面提到守護食安由源頭做起，落實各項監測，監測結果回饋源頭管理。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:16:34.359000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:16:34.939000+08:00","text":"講得很好聽啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:16:36.381000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:16:47.031000+08:00","text":"還說：提出「健康臺灣」的治國理念，面對癌症跟三高慢性病等危害國人健康的病症，除了醫療、照護及運動外，還要提倡「健康促進」。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:16:48.551000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:16:57.875000+08:00","text":"但現在我們政府沒有為癌症、三高把關，反而讓致癌油流竄全臺灣！","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:16:57.875000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:17:03.338000+08:00","text":"這不過就是一個禮拜前，距離這個爆發事件一個禮拜前還主持食安會報，然後講得很好聽。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:17:03.518000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:17:03.978000+08:00","text":"我想還是要釐清一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:17:04.218000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:17:22.170000+08:00","text":"石部長，我們確認一下，因為現在眾說紛紜，我們也越來越發現其實這凸顯食品安全跟業者的自主管理有很大的漏洞。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:17:23.431000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:17:36.777000+08:00","text":"這是你們7月1日的新聞稿，7月1日的新聞稿是說這一批油是6月30日的時候食藥署才接獲中聯的通報，中聯說他們在自主檢驗時驗出未符合標準。","quality":0.86},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:17:37.557000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:17:39.418000+08:00","text":"我請教一下，它的自主檢驗是什麼時候？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:17:40.907000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:17:45.768000+08:00","text":"這個已經是到後面，6月16日它先去送愛之味檢驗，然後後面6月25日檢驗結果出來。","quality":0.774},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:17:45.768000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:17:46.429000+08:00","text":"中聯6月16日才檢驗？","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:17:46.429000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:17:47.429000+08:00","text":"6月16日的檢驗。好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:17:46.429000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:18:17.210000+08:00","text":"但你看你們的下一段，在4月8日、9日、10日就已經從中聯出貨給福壽以及泰山的相關公司了，所以4月8日、9日、10日的時候就已經製作，然後二級廠商去做相關的油品並且販售了。","quality":0.881},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:18:17.851000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:18:21.235000+08:00","text":"不過從它提供的檢驗紀錄，他在4月13日有一個檢驗，結果是正常，當時沒有超標。","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:18:30.508000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:18:36.191000+08:00","text":"他在4月的時候有自主檢驗，那一次是符合標準。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:18:36.391000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:18:39.532000+08:00","text":"然後後續是由泰山……","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:18:39.532000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:18:43.754000+08:00","text":"後續到5月13日南僑……","quality":0.286},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:18:43.754000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:18:45.535000+08:00","text":"南僑主動驗出來之後才覺得有問題？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:18:45.875000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:18:48.216000+08:00","text":"它驗出了一個有問題之後，然後……","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:18:48.576000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:18:54.119000+08:00","text":"南僑那個時候有沒有停止生產或是停止做其他程序，然後做相關的通報？","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:18:55.671000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:18:59.154000+08:00","text":"這個它沒有通報。沒有？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:18:59.154000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:18:59.314000+08:00","text":"對，所以它會被……","quality":0.333},{"spe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的時候，國人為什麼會不安心？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:22:20.274000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:22:29.737000+08:00","text":"即便你說1,100噸可能有大部分是做油炸，沒有留下來，那有沒有一些還是做成食用油品給人家使用？有啊！","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:22:30.857000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:22:41.806000+08:00","text":"就你們從7月1日到7月7日所公布的，為什麼大家會覺得你衛福部的新聞稿公布的是擠牙膏式？","quality":0.784},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:22:43.027000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:22:47.611000+08:00","text":"這是因為到現在我還不知道到底有多少油品是受到傷害和受到污染的。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:22:49.373000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:22:57.100000+08:00","text":"你看最新上來的，你們從7月7日到現在，預防性下架，7月8號也就是今天晚上12點以前全面下架完畢，到底有多少品項？","quality":0.844},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:22:58.585000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:22:58.985000+08:00","text":"我不知道。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:23:00.667000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:23:04.530000+08:00","text":"252項是我們昨天發布的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:23:04.730000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:23:08.353000+08:00","text":"剛剛最新上來，我查新聞有到401項。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:23:08.353000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:23:09.434000+08:00","text":"那個又是新增的。是啊！","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:23:10.735000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:23:11.115000+08:00","text":"沒有錯嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:23:11.376000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:23:13.858000+08:00","text":"所以我們現在講的是，那什麼時候……你看！","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:23:14.498000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:23:17.601000+08:00","text":"從7月3日、7月5日257家，到7月7日360家，到現在401品項，會不會你明天下午2點再跟我們講說其實是500、600？","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:23:28.205000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:23:42.643000+08:00","text":"我今天要出來之前，我太太跟我講上個月因為暑假小朋友食慾比較不好，我們買個涼筍來做沙拉，結果我們買的那個沙拉一樣是有中獎啊！","quality":0.965},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:23:43.024000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:23:43.965000+08:00","text":"一樣就是在你的規範裡面啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:23:47.455000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:23:51.058000+08:00","text":"這是擠牙膏式的，一天、一天、一天告訴國人。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:23:51.638000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:24:01.167000+08:00","text":"所以我想請教一下，現在不管是南僑、泰山還是中聯，他們有沒有完整交代他們的下游廠商名單，讓我們食藥署做掌握？","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:24:01.567000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:24:03.228000+08:00","text":"如果有掌握的話，為什麼還要擠牙膏式？","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:24:04.492000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:24:10.437000+08:00","text":"跟委員說明，廠商流向的部分是有掌握，現在是在盤點它做成的商品。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:24:11.197000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:24:22.906000+08:00","text":"第1層的油都已經下架回收了，這個都沒有問題，是在下一層第2層商品的部分持續在盤查。","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:24:23.547000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:24:27.210000+08:00","text":"所以在盤點完之後，我們就會公布、公布、公布這樣子。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:24:27.210000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:24:27.870000+08:00","text":"所以到目前為止還沒有盤查完畢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:24:27.870000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:24:30.767000+08:00","text":"現在差不多……","quality":0},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:24:30.767000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:24:43.159000+08:00","text":"已經發生了一個禮拜，8天的時間，從6月30日爆發這個事件，到今天7月8日了，還沒有盤查完畢！","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:24:43.159000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:24:50.666000+08:00","text":"對，因為這涉及到360家，然後要往下去查這360家做成的商品，確實複雜度比較高。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:24:50.686000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:25:08.066000+08:00","text":"部長，什麼時候可以告訴國人這一波……如果你連4月的這一批都還沒有辦法盤查完畢，你今天又說有第5批疑似也有驗出致癌物質，那5月的呢？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:25:09.147000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:25:09.808000+08:00","text":"現在出去了多少？","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:25:11.792000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:25:23.515000+08:00","text":"5月我們現在在查另外有一個昨天接獲到檢驗結果的，我們會把它照這個流向走，不過大概也都是這些同樣……","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:25:23.515000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:25:24.515000+08:00","text":"都是這一些嘛！","quality":0},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:25:23.515000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:25:27.256000+08:00","text":"因為供貨都是這些品項，對不對？對。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:25:27.576000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:25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防火牆？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-07-08T16:28:10.256000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:28:16.301000+08:00","text":"我們持續地在做各項的盤查，來確保現在油品在市面上的安全，請委員放心。","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:28:17.381000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:28:19.063000+08:00","text":"部長，不要只講好聽話。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:28:19.223000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:28:30.192000+08:00","text":"如同第一張，最後再讓大家看一下，奇文共賞：從源頭守護食安、強化跨部會資源整合。","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:28:32.174000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:28:45.486000+08:00","text":"這一些文章再擺出來，就是在在地讓國人覺得你現在中央政府的態度就是全都推給衛福部，完全沒有跨部會的資源整合，而源頭管理澈底失靈。","quality":0.898},{"speaker":"洪委員孟楷","start":"2026-07-08T16:28:46.547000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T16:28:46.667000+08:00","text":"以上，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:28:47.167000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:28:50.024143+08:00","text":"謝謝洪孟楷委員的質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:28:50.324143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:28:54.038429+08:00","text":"許宇甄、許宇甄，許宇甄委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:28:54.338429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:28:58.052714+08:00","text":"黃健豪、黃健豪，黃健豪委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:28:58.352714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:02.067000+08:00","text":"張嘉郡、張嘉郡，張嘉郡委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:02.367000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:06.081286+08:00","text":"羅廷瑋、羅廷瑋，羅廷瑋委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:06.381286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:10.095571+08:00","text":"林德福、林德福，林德福委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:10.395571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:14.109857+08:00","text":"顏寬恒、顏寬恒，顏寬恒委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:14.409857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:18.124143+08:00","text":"王安祥、王安祥，王安祥委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:18.424143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:22.138429+08:00","text":"葉元之、葉元之，葉元之委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:22.438429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:26.152714+08:00","text":"洪毓祥、洪毓祥，洪毓祥委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:26.452714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:30.167000+08:00","text":"蔡易餘、蔡易餘，蔡易餘委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:30.467000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:34.181286+08:00","text":"賴士葆、賴士葆，賴士葆委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:34.481286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:38.195571+08:00","text":"賴惠員、賴惠員，賴惠員委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:38.495571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:41.352714+08:00","text":"本日會議詢答全部結束。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:41.652714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:51.367000+08:00","text":"委員徐欣瑩、林德福、傅崐萁、林倩綺、許宇甄、洪毓祥所提書面質詢，列入紀錄，刊登公報。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:51.667000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:29:54.238429+08:00","text":"食安問題書面質詢(一)","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:29:54.538429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:30:20.538429+08:00","text":"針對中聯油脂大豆沙拉油檢出苯（a）駢芘超標，問題油品已流向下游業者及加工產品，顯示我國食安預警、通報、追溯及預算績效存在重大制度缺口，爰請衛生福利部及相關機關提出完整說明、責任檢討及具體改革方案。說明","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:30:20.838429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:30:44.267000+08:00","text":"一、依食品藥物管理署公開資訊，中聯油脂股份有限公司自主通報其大豆沙拉油批號315-1150404，製造日期為115年4月4日、有效日期為115年9月30日，檢出苯（a）駢芘8.1μg/kg，已超過我國食用油脂限量標準2.0μg/kg。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:30:44.567000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:30:55.995571+08:00","text":"該批問題油品總量約1,300公噸，並於115年4月8日至10日出貨予福壽實業、福懋油脂及泰山企業等下游業者。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:30:56.295571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:31:10.009857+08:00","text":"台中市食安處於115年6月30日獲報後，會同食品藥物管理署進行聯合稽查，要求業者停止相關產線與出貨，並啟動下架回收。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:31:10.309857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:31:27.738429+08:00","text":"二、本案關鍵問題不僅在於單一批號油品不合格，而在於問題油品於4月初即已製造並出貨，主管機關至6月底始獲通報並展開稽查，中間歷時近三個月。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:31:28.038429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:31:46.038429+08:00","text":"該期間問題油品可能已遭分裝、加工、販售或進入餐飲、團膳、家庭消費鏈，顯示現行食安制度在出貨前預警、異常檢驗通報及下游流向掌握上，均有必要檢討。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:31:46.338429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:32:04.909857+08:00","text":"三、食品安全衛生管理法第7條要求食品業者實施自主管理，並於發現產品有危害衛生安全之虞時，應即主動停止製造、加工、販賣、辦理回收，並通報地方主管機關。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:32:05.209857+08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某食品使用問題油品比例未達20%，但屬高頻食用食品，是否仍可能造成累積暴露風險。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:37:17.881286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:37:25.881286+08:00","text":"對此類產品，主管機關是否有額外管理措施，或僅交由業者自主揭露。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:37:26.181286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:37:33.038429+08:00","text":"若僅自主揭露，請說明如何確保業者揭露完整、即時且正確。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:37:33.338429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:37:46.767000+08:00","text":"七、請說明本案食品追溯追蹤系統是否能於主管機關接獲通報後24小時內，自動列出完整第一層及第二層下游流向。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:37:47.067000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:38:02.495571+08:00","text":"若仍須仰賴地方衛生局逐一查核、業者回報及中央彙整，請說明現行追溯追蹤系統是否僅具事後盤點功能，而非即時風險控管功能。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:38:02.795571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:38:23.367000+08:00","text":"八、請研議針對大宗油脂建立批號級電子追溯制度，追蹤內容至少應包括原料批號、製造批號、出貨日期、出貨數量、下游業者、加工產品名稱、庫存量、已使用量、已回收量及已銷毀量。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:38:23.667000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:38:36.524143+08:00","text":"重大食安事件發生後，中央主管機關應於24小時內掌握第一層及第二層流向，並於48小時內完成主要消費端清查。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:38:36.824143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:39:01.109857+08:00","text":"九、請自本案起建立重大食安事件每日資訊揭露制度，不應僅公布產品品項及業者名單，而應每日公布問題產品總量、已下架量、已回收量、已銷毀量、已使用或已消費推估量、仍流向未明量，以及下游追蹤完成率。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:39:01.409857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:39:09.124143+08:00","text":"民眾要知道的不只是「有多少品項被公布」，更是「風險是否真正收斂」。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:39:09.424143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:39:26.567000+08:00","text":"十、請衛福部會同教育部、地方政府及相關主管機關，清查本案問題油品或下游產品是否流入校園午餐、幼兒園、醫療院所、長照機構、團膳及餐飲系統。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:39:26.867000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:39:44.009857+08:00","text":"未使用者應公告已排除，曾使用者應公開使用期間、產品名稱、供餐數量及後續處理方式，避免家長、病患及消費者只能依靠零散新聞自行判斷風險。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:39:44.309857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:40:01.738429+08:00","text":"十一、請說明本案是否已啟動最嚴格行政裁罰、刑事移送、不法所得追繳、相關產線停業或復工限制，以及對受影響消費者與下游業者之求償協助機制。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:40:02.038429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:40:10.895571+08:00","text":"若最後僅以罰鍰處理，對大型業者而言恐淪為營業成本，難以形成真正嚇阻。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:40:11.195571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:40:28.338429+08:00","text":"十二、請說明食品安全衛生管理法第44條及第49條於本案適用情形，包括是否涉及情節重大、是否足以危害人體健康之虞、是否追究法人及負責人責任。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:40:28.638429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:40:37.781286+08:00","text":"請勿僅以「依法辦理」概括回應，應提出具體裁處標準、辦理進度及預計完成期程。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:40:38.081286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:41:01.509857+08:00","text":"十三、請檢討114年度整體食安預算109.8億元中，實際用於大宗食用油脂污染物檢驗、異常通報系統、食品追溯追蹤系統、AI食安預警、地方稽查補助及重大食安事件應變之金額各為多少，並說明其具體績效。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:41:01.809857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:41:12.952714+08:00","text":"相關預算不應只以執行率呈現，應以風險攔截率、追溯完成率、回收率及異常通報時效檢驗成果。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:41:13.252714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:41:44.395571+08:00","text":"十四、請於下次預算審查前提出「食安預算與風險攔截成效對照表」，至少列明高風險食品抽驗覆蓋率、大宗油脂污染物抽驗件數及合格率、異常檢驗通報平均時效、重大食安事件24小時追溯完成率、問題產品下架率、回收率、銷毀率，以及預算執行金額與具體風險降低成果。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:41:44.695571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:41:59.267000+08:00","text":"十五、請就「食安五環」、「食品安全建設計畫」、「AI食安預警」、「食品雲及追溯追蹤系統」、「地方食安稽查補助」等計畫，提出本案檢討報告。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:41:59.567000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:42:16.424143+08:00","text":"若相關計畫無法證明已有效提升出貨前預警、即時追溯及風險攔截能力，衛福部應檢討預算配置，避免食安預算變成事後補破網，而非事前防線。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:42:16.724143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:42:25.581286+08:00","text":"十六、請於30日內提出「高風險食品污染物預警及追溯改革方案」，內容至少包括：","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:42:25.881286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:42:30.452714+08:00","text":"(一)高風險食品異常檢驗自動通報制度。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:42:30.752714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:42:35.324143+08:00","text":"(二)大宗油脂逐批、逐船或逐槽檢驗制度。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:42:35.624143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:42:39.052714+08:00","text":"(三)批號級電子追溯追蹤制度。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:42:39.352714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:42:45.638429+08:00","text":"(四)重大食安事件每日揭露回收率及流向未明量制度。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:42:45.938429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:42:50.795571+08:00","text":"(五)預防性下架門檻之科學評估公開機制。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:42:51.095571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:42:57.381286+08:00","text":"(六)校園、醫院、長照及團膳供應鏈高風險原料預警機制。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:42:57.681286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:43:09.109857+08:00","text":"(七)延遲通報、隱匿資訊、未完整揭露流向及未依限下架回收者之加重裁罰、停業及負責人責任標準。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:43:09.409857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:43:18.552714+08:00","text":"本席強調，人民要的不是每次食安事件爆發後，政府再說「已下架、已回收、已開罰」。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:43:18.852714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:43:25.424143+08:00","text":"真正的食安治理，應是在問題食品流入市場前即時攔截。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:43:25.724143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:43:30.867000+08:00","text":"食安不是吃下去後回收，食安是出貨前攔截。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:43:31.167000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:43:44.595571+08:00","text":"請主管機關正面回應本案所暴露之制度缺口，提出具體改革，不得再以「持續追蹤、依法辦理、滾動檢討」作為空泛回應。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:43:44.895571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:43:47.467000+08:00","text":"「食安問題」書面質詢（二）","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:43:47.767000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:44:14.624143+08:00","text":"針對中聯油脂大豆沙拉油檢出苯（a）駢芘超標，且問題油品跨縣市流向下游業者、加工產品、餐飲及可能之團膳供應鏈一案，顯示重大食安事件中，中央與地方政府在通報、稽查、追溯、資訊揭露、回收執行及跨部會協調上仍有制度落差。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:44:14.924143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:44:27.781286+08:00","text":"爰請衛生福利部、食品藥物管理署及相關機關，以本案為案例，提出中央地方協力合作之檢討與精進方案。說明","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:44:28.081286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:44:51.224143+08:00","text":"一、依食品藥物管理署公開資訊，中聯油脂股份有限公司自主通報其大豆沙拉油批號315-1150404，製造日期為115年4月4日、有效日期為115年9月30日，檢出苯（a）駢芘8.1μg/kg，超過我國食用油脂限量標準2.0μg/kg。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:44:51.524143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:45:02.952714+08:00","text":"該批問題油品總量約1,300公噸，並於115年4月8日至10日出貨予福壽實業、福懋油脂及泰山企業等下游業者。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:45:03.252714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:45:16.967000+08:00","text":"台中市食安處於115年6月30日獲報後，會同食品藥物管理署進行聯合稽查，要求業者停止相關產線與出貨，並啟動下架回收。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:45:17.267000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:45:33.267000+08:00","text":"二、本案表面上是單一製油業者油品污染事件，但實際上問題油品一旦出貨，即跨越地方行政轄區，進入分裝、加工、通路、餐飲、團膳及消費端。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:45:33.567000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:45:54.138429+08:00","text":"此類重大食安事件不可能只由單一地方政府獨立處理，而必須仰賴中央即時整合資訊、統一指揮風險分級、協調各地方政府同步查核，並向國人公開一致、完整且可驗證之資訊。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:45:54.438429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:46:14.152714+08:00","text":"三、現行食品安全衛生管理制度中，中央主管機關負責法規、標準、風險管理、跨縣市協調及全國性資訊揭露；地方政府負責第一線稽查、查封、下架、回收、裁處及轄區業者管理。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:46:14.452714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:46:35.595571+08:00","text":"然而，本案顯示，當問題產品流向跨縣市、跨通路、跨食品型態時，中央與地方之間若缺乏即時資料交換、統一SOP、單一指揮鏈及一致揭露格式，將造成資訊落差、查核延遲與責任模糊。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:46:35.895571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:46:48.181286+08:00","text":"四、本案中，主管機關陸續公布受影響業者、產品品項及下游流向，並由地方政府分別執行查核與下架回收。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:46:48.481286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:47:05.624143+08:00","text":"然而，民眾關心的不只是「哪一個縣市查了幾家」，而是全國問題油品到底流向何處、哪些產品仍有風險、哪些已排除、回收率多少、校園與團膳是否安全。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:47:05.924143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:47:15.638429+08:00","text":"若中央地方資料無法即時整合，民眾只能等待一波一波名單，難以安心生活與就學。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:47:15.938429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:47:32.224143+08:00","text":"五、近年政府推動食安五環、食品雲、食品追溯追蹤、地方食安稽查補助、食品安全建設計畫及AI食安預警，理應強化中央地方共同治理能力。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:47:32.524143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:47:51.381286+08:00","text":"惟本案仍呈現問題產品出貨後，中央地方逐步追查、滾動公布、分別查核之樣態，顯示我國食安治理仍偏向「事件發生後跨縣市補救」，而非「風險發生前全國同步攔截」。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:47:51.681286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:48:13.681286+08:00","text":"六、本席認為，重大食安事件的治理能力，不應只看中央有無開記者會、地方有無派員稽查，而應檢驗中央地方是否能在最短時間內做到「同一套資料、同一套標準、同一個時鐘、同一個揭露口徑」。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:48:13.981286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:48:19.695571+08:00","text":"食安事件不是地方各查各的，而是全國共同防線。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:48:19.995571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:48:24.567000+08:00","text":"中央地方若不同步，民眾就沒有安全感。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:48:24.867000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T16:48:26.009857+08:00","text":"質詢事項","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T16:48:26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02:25.752714+08:00","text":"(五)校園、醫療、長照、團膳清查結果。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:02:26.052714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:02:28.624143+08:00","text":"(六)資訊揭露決策流程。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:02:28.924143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:02:32.067000+08:00","text":"(七)中央地方協作之問題點。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:02:32.367000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:02:35.795571+08:00","text":"(八)後續制度修正及預算調整。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:02:36.095571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:02:44.381286+08:00","text":"二十四、請於30日內提出「中央地方食安協力治理精進方案」，內容至少包括：","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:02:44.681286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:02:48.967000+08:00","text":"(一)重大食安事件中央單一指揮窗口。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:02:49.267000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:02:53.552714+08:00","text":"(二)跨縣市即時通報與共同資料平台。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:02:53.852714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:02:57.852714+08:00","text":"(三)地方政府限時查核及回報制度。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:02:58.152714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:03:01.867000+08:00","text":"(四)中央地方統一資訊揭露格式。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:03:02.167000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:03:07.595571+08:00","text":"(五)校園、醫療、長照、團膳跨部會同步清查SOP。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:03:07.895571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:03:11.609857+08:00","text":"(六)地方食安稽查補助績效指標。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:03:11.909857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:03:16.767000+08:00","text":"(七)區域食安應變隊及中央支援調度制度。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:03:17.067000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:03:20.781286+08:00","text":"(八)重大食安事件統一裁罰指引。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:03:21.081286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:03:25.652714+08:00","text":"(九)食品工廠製程安全跨部會稽查制度。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:03:25.952714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:03:30.238429+08:00","text":"(十)中央地方食安資料品質稽核制度。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:03:30.538429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:03:32.252714+08:00","text":"要求答復事項","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:03:32.552714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:04:01.409857+08:00","text":"請衛生福利部、食品藥物管理署、行政院食品安全辦公室、教育部、經濟部及相關機關，就上述質詢事項逐項具體答復，並檢附本案中央地方通報紀錄、會議紀錄、查核進度、各縣市回報資料、跨部會清查結果、回收統計、裁處進度、預算配置及制度精進期程。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:04:01.709857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:04:13.424143+08:00","text":"本席強調，本案暴露的不是單一地方政府能否稽查的問題，而是全國食安治理能否同步作戰的問題。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:04:13.724143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:04:22.295571+08:00","text":"食安事件一旦跨縣市流動，中央不能只等地方回報，地方也不能各自為政。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:04:22.595571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:04:34.024143+08:00","text":"人民要的不是中央地方互相補充說明，而是同一時間、同一標準、同一平台、同一責任鏈的食安防線。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:04:34.324143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:04:46.609857+08:00","text":"真正讓國人安心生活與就學的食安治理，不是事後各縣市分頭追查，而是中央地方在第一時間共同攔截。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員徐欣瑩書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:04:46.909857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:04:52.338429+08:00","text":"食安不是地方各查各的；食安是全國同步防線。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員林德福書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:04:52.638429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:04:54.924143+08:00","text":"確立主管機關權責","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員林德福書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:04:55.224143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:04:58.367000+08:00","text":"請衛福部部長、食藥署署長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員林德福書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:04:58.667000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:05:08.381286+08:00","text":"部長，中聯油脂這批大豆沙拉油，驗出一級致癌物苯駢芘超標4倍，高達1,300噸流入市面。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員林德福書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:05:08.681286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:05:28.681286+08:00","text":"這幾天社會輿論沸騰，依據《食品安全衛生管理法》第4條第5款規定：「遇有重大或突發食品安全事件，中央主管機關應依風險評估，採取下架、封存、限期回收、沒入銷毀等管理措施。」","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員林德福書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:05:28.981286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:05:40.124143+08:00","text":"請問部長，此次中聯油脂問題油影響全國各縣市，全台逾七成的大豆沙拉油的源頭都來自中聯。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員林德福書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:05:40.424143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:05:53.852714+08:00","text":"屬於重大油品食安事件，該究責就要究責，食品安全不分黨派，食安漏洞檢討，這是衛福部的責任，不要甩鍋推給地方。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員林德福書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:05:54.152714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:05:55.152714+08:00","text":"問題二","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員林德福書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:05:55.452714+08: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市場的事實，這正是人民對食安治理失去信心的根本原因。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:22:22.567000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:22:33.138429+08:00","text":"1.這次苯駢芘超標，不是食藥署查到，也不是中聯主動揭露，而是下游南僑委外檢驗才發現。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:22:33.438429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:22:41.724143+08:00","text":"若南僑沒有多驗一步，食藥署能不能自己發現這一千三百公噸問題油？","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:22:42.024143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:22:43.452714+08:00","text":"如何發現呢？","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:22:43.752714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:22:47.467000+08:00","text":"如果不能，源頭控管是不是失靈？","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:22:47.767000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:22:54.624143+08:00","text":"2.食安五環第一環強調源頭控管與泛食品雲大數據分析。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:22:54.924143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:23:02.067000+08:00","text":"中聯4月出貨，6月底才爆發，中間將近三個月沒有預警、沒有攔截。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:23:02.367000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:23:11.795571+08:00","text":"請問部長，泛食品雲沒有示警，食藥署也沒有查到，這套源頭控管到底控管了什麼？","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:23:12.095571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:23:19.524143+08:00","text":"3.食安五環第二環要求關鍵業別自主管理、強制檢驗、追溯追蹤。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:23:19.824143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:23:27.538429+08:00","text":"中聯是上游大廠，問題油卻流向福懋、福壽、泰山，再擴散到大量下游。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:23:27.838429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:23:35.838429+08:00","text":"業者自主管理失敗，主管機關也沒有發現，衛福部是否承認監督失職？","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:23:36.138429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:23:42.709857+08:00","text":"4.食安五環第三環要求對高風險、高關注產品加強查驗。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:23:43.009857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:23:51.295571+08:00","text":"食用油過去多次出事，苯駢芘也不是新風險，卻仍未被高強度查驗攔下。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許宇甄書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:23:51.595571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:24:04.452714+08:00","text":"食藥署7月4日才說要補強原料驗收、製程管控、逐船或逐槽檢驗，是否正好證明過去風險分級錯誤、查驗強度不足？","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:24:04.752714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:24:49.609857+08:00","text":"本院委員洪毓祥，針對中聯油脂問題油品事件所暴露之食安異常通報延遲、批次追溯涵蓋不足、回收資訊揭露不完整，以及「食品雲」跨部會資料介接、風險預警與快速溯源功能未能充分發揮等問題，請衛生福利部會同食品藥物管理署、農業部、經濟部、環境部、教育部、財政部及其他相關機關，全面檢討食品雲之建置成效、資料治理、預警模型、事件通報與回收追蹤機制，爰此，向相關部會質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:24:49.909857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:25:07.909857+08:00","text":"一、中聯油脂問題批次於2026年4月4日製造，4月8日至10日已出貨約1,300公噸，流向福懋、福壽及泰山；該批次檢出苯駢芘每公斤8.1微克，為法定上限每公斤2.0微克之4.05倍。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:25:08.209857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:25:20.781286+08:00","text":"惟業者至6月11日始接獲下游異常通知，6月29日複驗確認，政府亦至6月底始掌握，從製造、出貨至通報已接近三個月。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:25:21.081286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:25:33.652714+08:00","text":"此一時程顯示，現行制度仍高度依賴業者自主檢驗與人工通報，尚未形成足以即時攔截風險之自動預警鏈。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:25:33.952714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:25:54.809857+08:00","text":"二、食藥署於2026年7月3日公布受影響油品共18項，惟截至當日中午，僅6項完成回收量統計，合計回收17.422公噸；其餘12項之總產量、已售量、庫存量、回收量、銷毀量及回收完成率尚未同步完整揭露。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:25:55.109857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:26:12.824143+08:00","text":"食品安全資訊若僅公布已回收數量，未同時揭露總流通量與計算基礎，民眾無從判斷實際風險及回收進度，亦不利地方政府、校園、團膳及通路即時查核。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:26:13.124143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:26:37.981286+08:00","text":"三、官方統計顯示，2025年食品中毒通報為1,212案、5,650人，其中學校發生31案、涉及536人，較2024年之1,750案、9,045人及10人死亡有所下降；惟2026年4月仍接連發生新北清六食堂143人、桃園上野烤肉飯61人及國立臺灣戲曲學院53名學生疑似食品中毒事件。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:26:38.281286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:26:47.995571+08:00","text":"案件數下降固值得肯定，仍不能取代制度性預警、即時通報與批次追溯能力之檢驗。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:26:48.295571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:27:11.438429+08:00","text":"四、「食品雲」並非單一網站或單一標案，而係以食藥署食品業者登錄、追溯追蹤、檢驗、邊境查驗及通路管理等系統為核心，再介接農業、產業、校園食材、化學原料、關務及財稅等跨部會資料之後端整合架構。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:27:11.738429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:27:39.452714+08:00","text":"立法院預算中心資料指出，塑化劑事件後行政院分階段推動食品雲，自2015年起進入第三階段，當時規劃整合6個部會、13套系統，其政策目的包括跨部會資料整合、事前風險預警、事件發生後快速溯源，以及運用大數據與人工智慧提高稽查命中率。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:27:39.752714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:28:01.181286+08:00","text":"五、依現有官方資料，食品雲及相關子系統已投入相當公帑，且各階段、部會及子系統之計算範圍可能重疊，不宜逕予加總；惟政府仍有義務彙整完整投入總額、標案範圍及成果驗收情形。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:28:01.481286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:28:04.052714+08:00","text":"主要可核對經費如下：","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:28:04.352714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:28:30.638429+08:00","text":"六、食品雲已有部分基礎系統、跨部會介接及邊境風險分析成果，不能概括認定完全無效；然而，監察院、立法院預算中心及審計部資料亦反覆指出，後市場即時預警、資料品質、交易資料即時性及高風險名單準確度仍有明顯缺口。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:28:30.938429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:28:57.509857+08:00","text":"監察院2020年調查時，47萬5,763家完成登錄之食品業者中，納入強制追溯者僅1萬99家，約占2%；截至2024年11月，指定業者電子發票導入率雖達98.3%，但電子發票僅能證明交易紀錄存在，並不等同於原料批號、製程、檢驗結果及成品流向均可完整串接。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:28:57.809857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:29:20.381286+08:00","text":"七、審計資料並指出，食品雲油品及化學品監測模組雖曾產出優先稽查名單，實地稽查後卻未必能有效發掘問題業者；跨部會資料亦存在延遲、缺漏、定義不一、資料錯置及品項分類不一致等問題。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:29:20.681286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:29:33.824143+08:00","text":"政府於2021年、2022年仍持續委託辦理資料轉譯、清檔、偵錯與標準化，足見資料治理問題並未因系統建置完成而自然消失。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:29:34.124143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:29:52.124143+08:00","text":"另財稅交易資料過去受系統架構及承載量限制，無法即時取得最近一個月之交易資料，當重大食安事件發生時，政府掌握的供應鏈資訊可能仍落後數週。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:29:52.424143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:30:11.567000+08:00","text":"八、科技治理之成效不應僅以「介接幾套系統、處理幾筆資料、建立幾個模型」衡量，而應以預警是否準確、資料是否即時、追溯是否完整及案件是否確實處理為驗收標準。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:30:11.867000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:30:24.438429+08:00","text":"爰請相關機關於一週內就下列事項逐項書面答復，不得僅以原則性說明、既有新聞稿或系統功能介紹代替：","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:30:24.738429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:30:52.167000+08:00","text":"(一)就本次中聯油脂事件，提出自2026年4月4日製造、4月8日至10日出貨、6月11日接獲異常通知、6月29日複驗確認至政府掌握及啟動回收之完整時間軸；逐一說明各節點之資訊掌握機關、資料來源、通報方式、承辦單位、處置時間及是否達成法定或內控時限。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:30:52.467000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:31:17.895571+08:00","text":"(二)針對受影響之18項油品，以表格逐項提供品牌、品名、規格、批號、製造日期、總產量、已售量、庫存量、下游業者、通路、校園或團膳流向、已回收量、銷毀量、回收完成率及最後更新時間；並說明尚未完成統計之原因及預定完成日期。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:31:18.195571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:31:30.767000+08:00","text":"(三)說明本案發生前，食品雲已掌握哪些原料、成品、檢驗、交易及下游流向資料；系統是否曾發出任何異常警示。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:31:31.067000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:31:45.638429+08:00","text":"如未能預警，應明確區分係資料未介接、資料延遲、欄位缺漏、代碼無法匹配、模型未判定異常，或警示已產生但未被承辦人處理。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:31:45.938429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:32:18.795571+08:00","text":"(四)提供2025年度及2026年至今食品雲之核心服務水準指標，包括：批次追溯涵蓋率、批號欄位完整率、上下游流向完整率、檢驗資料完整率、資料錯誤率、無法匹配率、跨部會資料平均與最長延遲時間、預警命中率、誤報率、漏報率，以及輸入問題批號後產出完整上下游名單之平均與最長所需時間。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:32:19.095571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:32:39.095571+08:00","text":"(五)按各資料來源列出目前交換頻率及技術方式，包括即時、事件驅動、每日、每週、每月、定期批次或人工提供；並列出尚未達每日或即時交換之系統、原因、改善期程及經費需求。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:32:39.395571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:32:58.824143+08:00","text":"(六)列出全國食品製造、輸入、販售、餐飲、團膳及校園供應鏈中，尚未納入「非追不可」、電子發票或其他批次追溯範圍之業別、家數及占比，並提出分階段納管標準及完成時程。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:32:59.124143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:33:25.409857+08:00","text":"(七)針對本次問題油品及近年重大食安案件辦理逐案回測，說明在僅使用事件發生前已存在資料之條件下，食品雲能否提前發現異常；如無法發現，應列明缺少之資料、未生效之規則或模型、改版後之測試結果及預計改善日期。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:33:25.709857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:33:53.138429+08:00","text":"(八)提出食品雲自第一階段迄今之完整標案清冊，至少包括年度、案號、標案名稱、主辦機關、得標廠商、預算金額、決標金額、追加或變更金額、維運費用、工作範圍、驗收指標、實際成果及歷次稽核缺失；各部會及子系統如有重疊計算，應另行註明。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:33:53.438429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:34:19.724143+08:00","text":"(九)說明食品雲原始碼、資料模型、資料字典、API文件、演算法或AI模型、訓練資料及智慧財產權之歸屬，以及現行維運、擴充或轉換廠商是否存在技術依賴或原廠綁定；如有，應提出降低廠商依賴及確保政府自主掌握之措施。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:34:20.024143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:34:48.024143+08:00","text":"(十)提出全國一致之食品與原料代碼、統一批號格式、業者與工廠識別碼、檢驗項目及單位、召回狀態、跨部會API規格與資料品質責任人制度之建置現況及完成期程；並說明為何系統運作多年後，仍需反覆辦理相同類型之資料轉譯與清洗。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:34:48.324143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:35:13.181286+08:00","text":"(十一)提出將高風險檢驗結果、產品召回及問題批號由定期拋轉升級為事件驅動通知之具體方案，使食藥署、地方衛生局、教育部、校園食材平台及相關業者可於異常確認後，以分鐘或小時計算完成通知、比對與管制。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:35:13.481286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:35:39.195571+08:00","text":"(十二)規劃建置公開之問題產品回收儀表板，至少揭露品牌、品名、批號、總流通量、已售量、庫存量、回收量、銷毀量、回收完成率、流向範圍、負責機關及最後更新時間；並建立資料更正紀錄與版本管理，避免資訊分散於多則新聞稿。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:35:39.495571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:36:02.924143+08:00","text":"(十三)說明食品雲風險警示之人工覆核與案件管理機制，是否完整記錄警示產生時間、分派對象、承辦人查看時間、是否啟動稽查、稽查結果及未處理理由，以釐清係系統未發現、模型誤判，或人員未及處理。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:36:03.224143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:36:25.795571+08:00","text":"(十四)提出每年委由非原建置廠商或具獨立性之學術、研究單位辦理模型準確度、偏誤、歷史案件回測、資安、壓力及災難復原測試之規劃，並承諾將可公開之稽核結果及改善追蹤情形送交立法院。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員洪毓祥書面質詢","start":"2026-07-08T17:36:26.095571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:36:32.952714+08:00","text":"※針對上述，本席所提的問題，請於一星期內提供書面回覆。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席：現在作以下決議","start":"2026-07-08T17:36:33.252714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:36:35.824143+08:00","text":"報告、說明及詢答完畢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席：現在作以下決議","start":"2026-07-08T17:36:36.124143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:36:47.838429+08:00","text":"委員質詢未及答復或請補充資料者，請相關機關於兩週內以書面答復，委員另要求期限者，從其所定。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席：現在作以下決議","start":"2026-07-08T17:36:48.138429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:37:02.709857+08:00","text":"委員廖偉翔等18人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十四條及第二十五條條文修正草案」案等17案尚未審查完竣，另擇期繼續審查。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席：現在作以下決議","start":"2026-07-08T17:37:03.009857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:37:06.438429+08:00","text":"本日會議到此結束，現在散會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席：現在作以下決議","start":"2026-07-08T17:37:06.738429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:37:12.738429+08:00","text":"明天上午9時召開口腔衛生人員法立法公聽會，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席：現在作以下決議","start":"2026-07-08T17:37:13.038429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T17:37:14.181286+08:00","text":"散會（16時30分）","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}