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當生成式AI訴狀開始湧入法院，有些錯誤跟虛構、或者是無法追溯來源的法律資訊如果沒有好好控管，整個司法的負擔跟風險會很大。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:11:09.833333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:11:20.666667+08:00","text":"最近一個案例是桃園地院有法官在判決當中直接提醒當事人要找一個人類律師。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:11:21.333333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:11:27.833333+08:00","text":"我想我們在許多的系統上都有系統提醒跟你確認「你是否是人類？","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:11:28+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:11:32.800000+08:00","text":"」可是現在看起來，連法院的訴狀都會產生這樣的問題。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:11:33+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:11:45.750000+08:00","text":"所以到底你的律師是不是人類，會導致剛才本席所講的資訊錯假及資訊來源不明相關的議題。","quality":0.872},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:11:46.952381+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:12:24.785714+08:00","text":"實際上已經發生了氾濫的AI生成書狀，雖然AI的生成對人有很大的協助，但是可能會發生假設進去的資訊不是那麼精確，甚至AI可能也會自己做一些想像，結果輕微可能會發生前後矛盾、抓不到重點；更深一層，它可能引用根本不存在的法條、判例跟實務見解，在這個資訊爆炸的時代，我想每個人都有可能會產生誤判了。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:12:25+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:12:53.714286+08:00","text":"所以雖然AI降低了法律文書的門檻，可以協助整理資料、製作一些時間軸，提供很多的協助，但是很關鍵的是如果最後這樣直接送入法院，也迫使法官、法官助理及書記官要花很多時間去判別、查證，有時可能大家還不知道究竟這個部分有沒有問題，那更遑論查證了！","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:12:55+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:13:21.750000+08:00","text":"我們知道司法院今年已經函頒所屬機關使用人工智慧系統的指引，對法院內部人員已經有資安、個資以及人工覆核的要求，但是從剛才那個案例，看起來是臺灣的司法對於律師及一般民眾外部使用的明確AI規範，目前可能還有一些需要再調整、改進的。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:13:22+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:13:28.818182+08:00","text":"所以我請教你，司法院目前有沒有掌握AI生成訴狀進入法院的實際狀況？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:13:29.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:13:37.727273+08:00","text":"有沒有評估對這一類書狀的審理時間、查證的負擔跟書記官行政工作的影響？","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:13:38.142857+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:13:46.777778+08:00","text":"第二個部分，司法院有沒有評估法院內部人員跟外部訴訟參與者雙軌AI的規範？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:13:47.421053+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:14:04.812500+08:00","text":"基本上目前對於律師跟一般民眾利用AI製作訴狀，還蠻缺乏明確的揭露義務，本席認為如果書狀的重要內容、法律研究或引用的資料是AI生成，應該要課予基本的查證跟揭露的責任。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:14:05.800000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:14:23.800000+08:00","text":"最後，如果明知重大的過失，但沒有查證，結果還向法院提交了AI虛構的法律依據或裁判，司法院是不是應該要跟法務部及律師公會研議一下一些裁罰法的規範？","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:14:24.176471+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:14:26.823529+08:00","text":"以上這三點，是不是請您做個回應？","quality":1},{"speaker":"高秘書長金枝","start":"2026-08-19T10:14:27+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:14:35.714286+08:00","text":"我非常非常贊同委員的意見，這個應該是現在各界都會面對的。","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"高秘書長金枝","start":"2026-08-19T10:14:36.125000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:14:40.833333+08:00","text":"我先跟委員報告，律師的管理是法務部主管，它一定要對這部分積極管理。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"高秘書長金枝","start":"2026-08-19T10:14:41+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:14:57.769231+08:00","text":"然後我可以跟委員報告，其實我們都知道在AI的模型裡面，如果用NotebookLM，它絕對確認資料範圍是固定的，用別的東西可能會有幻覺。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"高秘書長金枝","start":"2026-08-19T10:14:58.857143+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:15:21.857143+08:00","text":"委員也有看到我們的指引，法官使用AI是不能夠用一般商用型的，除非我們將來資料是落地的，這個是很絕對的，商用型的資料是出去的，因為裡面有太多個資、機敏資料，所以我們的指引裡面寫得很清楚。","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"高秘書長金枝","start":"2026-08-19T10:15:22+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:15:58.727273+08:00","text":"萬一律師用AI作成書狀，如同委員說的，我們都知道常常會夾雜一些幻覺或是幻覺的法條，其實這就是法官的責任，當你要用律師的書狀，其實就是法官承擔的責任，你就要去分辨書狀，一定要分辨，其實這個分辨並不難，將來如果我們有資料落地型的AI工具來協助，其實馬上就可以分辨，這個是我們即將要做的事情。","quality":0.954},{"speaker":"高秘書長金枝","start":"2026-08-19T10:15:59.789474+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:16:14.700000+08:00","text":"律師對於書狀要負什麼責任，我希望法務部能夠嚴格要求，因為這在世界各國、美國都一直發生，其實這個是妨礙司法的。","quality":0.959},{"speaker":"高秘書長金枝","start":"2026-08-19T10:16:16.600000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:16:36.571429+08:00","text":"如同這件案件，其實法官最重大的負擔就是在於律師提出來的書狀，絕對要去查證他所引的資料，一定要，因為你要引他的資料，你一定要查證他所引的資料，這就是負擔……","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:16:38.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:16:45.818182+08:00","text":"不知道未來AI可不可以生成到也可以把那個查證的源頭生成出來，不過這是另外一個層次的議題。","quality":0.762},{"speaker":"高秘書長金枝","start":"2026-08-19T10:16:46+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:17:02.750000+08:00","text":"對，其實我相信AI的功能真的很強，只是我們怎麼用，前提是我們要注意幻覺的形成，也一定要盡到查證的義務，我相信這是所有使用AI模型都要面對的。","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:17:03.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:17:05.750000+08:00","text":"這是全面性的問題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:17:06+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:17:16.777778+08:00","text":"AI當然不是問題，但是最重要的是AI沒有規範是問題，可是AI生成的速度跟我們在追的速度，目前很難講。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:17:17+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:17:31.642857+08:00","text":"所以當事人如果大量使用錯誤的AI資訊，法院查證的成本也會變高，最重要的是大家最後的腦力、人力可不可以因應，也不是到最後所謂處罰的問題。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:17:32+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:17:44.812500+08:00","text":"前面大家有沒有這個能耐、速度和AI相比，我覺得這是一個基本的問題，你們可能在思考本席所建議的方向時，也要考慮到前面那個層次的問題，好不好？","quality":0.794},{"speaker":"高秘書長金枝","start":"2026-08-19T10:17:45.428571+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:17:54.833333+08:00","text":"我們會朝這個方面，因為要使用AI，就如同委員講的，這就是我們要面對、解決的問題，謝謝委員提醒。","quality":0.878},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:17:55.333333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:17:56.666667+08:00","text":"謝謝秘書長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:17:58.142857+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:18:00.714286+08:00","text":"接下來請法務部次長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-08-19T10:18:00.714286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-19T10:18:01.714286+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:18:01.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:18:19.666667+08:00","text":"剛才法務部也有大概略聽到相關的議題，法務部、司法院都有一些重疊到我們要處理跟因應的狀態，也請你們考量並研究如何因應。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:18:20+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:18:31.812500+08:00","text":"最後跟您請教檢察機關在辦案過程當中跨部會資料整合的問題，我們也是以一起案件來做個討論。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:18:32.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:19:25.866667+08:00","text":"橋頭地檢署偵辦一起現役軍人的酒駕案件，被告原本是緩起訴處分，結果因為沒有依照期限繳納5萬塊的處分金，檢方就撤銷他的緩起訴並起訴，結果這個案件到了法院，卻因為檢方把撤銷緩起訴的處分書寄到被告原本的戶籍地及居住地，沒有按照刑事訴訟法第六十二條準用民事訴訟法第一百二十九條規定，透過服役的軍事機關送達，因此法院認定送達程序不合法，撤銷了起訴處分尚未明確，最後裁定公訴不受理，現在這個被告在緩起訴期間入伍，而且役期是到2029年，也不是臨時或短暫的身分變動。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:19:26.444444+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:19:41.789474+08:00","text":"在這個過程當中，被告在偵查、緩起訴或執行期間，發生身分變更的時候，就像剛才我們所講的已經入伍成為現役軍人，有沒有辦法主動即時取得相關資訊？","quality":0.984},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:19:42.214286+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:20:06.818182+08:00","text":"接下來，如果目前檢察機關和國防部、內政、戶政等行政機關已經有資料介接或查詢機制，是不是在實際執行上有一些缺漏，所以沒有辦法直接發揮作用，是不是系統沒有更新，或者是某些技術性問題？","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:20:07.222222+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:20:20.800000+08:00","text":"這個案件本來應該是可以在事前確認送達程序的瑕疵，結果後來導致這樣的結果，不曉得你對這個案件或者是整體制度有什麼看法？","quality":0.873},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-08-19T10:20:21.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:20:35.777778+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，因為這個案子被告的身分在送達的時候已經是現役軍人，所以按照刑訴準用民訴的規定，的確是應該向他所該管的軍事機關或者長官送達。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-08-19T10:20:36.166667+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:20:51.812500+08:00","text":"這個案子後來是向被告的住所及居所地做補充送達，或者相關留置送達，送達本身的確是不合法，所以法院下一個不受理判決沒有錯，因為撤銷緩起訴處分還沒有確定。","quality":0.942},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-08-19T10:20:52.444444+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:21:09.750000+08:00","text":"但是跟委員報告，這畢竟是法院的刑事判決，就檢察官來講，刑事判決回來之後，檢察官還是可以重新偵查，再行做相關的起訴與否決定，所以這不影響被告在實體上的權利，但程序上的確是有瑕疵，這是第一點。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-08-19T10:21:10+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:21:37.666667+08:00","text":"第二點，委員有提到送達的部分是不是要跟軍事機關有一些相互的聯繫，事實上，我們跟軍事機關之間有一個聯繫要點，規範彼此相互的聯繫，但前提是檢察官必須要知道這個人目前是現役軍人，所以在我們檢察官的辦案系統裡面，事實上，在資訊介接方面，檢察官有一個系統，理論上是可以查知這個被告目前是否在服役當中，理論上是這樣。","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-08-19T10:21:38+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:21:49.800000+08:00","text":"但前提是檢察官有沒有去查，所以這個涉及到個案檢察官在被告起訴的時候有沒有敏感度，就是這個被告在這個年歲有可能是在服役當中。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:21:50+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:21:53.833333+08:00","text":"這就是敏感度的問題，每個人不一樣。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-08-19T10:21:54+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:22:13.714286+08:00","text":"對，所以這是當檢察官的基本認知，我們在各種場合也有提醒檢察官，在有可能入役的年齡，就要上系統去查他目前是不是在服役當中，如果沒有查清楚就會導致這個個案後面送達不合法、撤銷緩起訴不合法，甚至起訴不合法的問題。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:22:15+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:22:49.750000+08:00","text":"所以從這個個案來看有沒有一些通案的因應，全面盤點在國防跟戶政機關之間的嫁接，你們再去做一下確認，系統如果有漏接就可以及時補強，系統如果已經完備就檢討整個標準作業流程，還有人員的訓練，特別是針對現役軍人、在監受刑人或收容人等特殊身分的送達規定，是不是也藉這個案子可以再做一些檢視？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:22:50+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:23:02.642857+08:00","text":"基本上，我們就從個案來看看，整體通案需要再做一些檢討的部分，本席這邊就提供你這個個案作為制度性檢討的案例，好不好？","quality":0.904},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-08-19T10:23:03+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:23:14.800000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，法律沒有問題，工具也沒有問題，檢察官的專業也沒問題，現在就是他的敏感度問題，就是檢察官在個案終結之前要更敏感地去查覺我剛才跟委員報告的，他有可能是現役軍人。","quality":0.662},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-08-19T10:23:15+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:23:22.777778+08:00","text":"或許可以提供相關的資訊，再提醒一下檢察官。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-08-19T10:23:23.142857+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:23:26.777778+08:00","text":"我們會在檢察長會議的時候跟檢察長宣達這件事情。","quality":0.727},{"speak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