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T10:41:24.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:42:06.740000+08:00","text":"報告委員，針對師資培育的部分，原住民族與師資除了依照課綱去培育之外，未來配合原住民學校，我們會把原民會所建立的知識架構內涵，納入我們師資培育、民族教育次專長的內涵裡面，目前本來次專長的課程架構就有在我們師培學校裡面去處理，包括在職的部分也會跟原民會一起合作，對於在職老師做訓練，未來如果原住民學校有確定成立的話，它的師資其實可以由我們這邊去培育之後，並做一定程度的轉任跟轉換。以上。","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:42:07.040000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:42:25.549333+08:00","text":"好，我再請教一下，如果原先是原住民的學生，或是他已經有老師的資格，有沒有優先來培育原住民的學生未來可能投入到原住民學校，有沒有這樣的計畫或者是打算？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-08-19T10:42:26+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:42:28.380000+08:00","text":"這部分如果原民會有計畫，我們會協助。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:42:29.533333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:42:32.306667+08:00","text":"現在是不是要先由原民會提出計畫嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"王副司長淑娟","start":"2026-08-19T10:42:33.640000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:42:43.322857+08:00","text":"再跟委員報告，其實目前原住民學生也是在我們師資生的培育行列裡面，通常我們都是用外加名額去支給。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:42:43.880000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:42:48.280000+08:00","text":"是，有沒有多鼓勵他們未來可以回到原鄉來服務？有！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"王副司長淑娟","start":"2026-08-19T10:42:49.720000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:42:54.017778+08:00","text":"目前透過公費生的制度，其實都是對接原鄉的，另外……","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:42:54.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:43:12.830769+08:00","text":"最主要是因為他們課程的自主，有很多是屬於他們歷史性的，所以應該是原鄉的學生當老師以後回來的話，他對於這個地方認同的情感應該會比一般的老師還要好。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"王副司長淑娟","start":"2026-08-19T10:43:13+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:43:35.880000+08:00","text":"是，目前我們這兩年推動原住民專班公費生培育的計畫裡面，就是針對來自他原來在地的縣市所推薦原住民的學生作為原住民專班培育的對象，未來他就會透過這樣的計畫回到他的原鄉去進行服務。以上。","quality":0.988},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:43:36.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:43:54.080000+08:00","text":"好，對於原住民學校，我們關心三件事情，師資要穩定、學生權益要完整、教育資源要持續，請教育部後續應該要跟原民會來做這三件事情的銜接。好。","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:43:54.827692+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:44:01.816000+08:00","text":"最後有一題要請教次長，次長，你知道什麼叫夏季失落嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:44:02.040000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:44:04.308000+08:00","text":"夏季失落的現象嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-08-19T10:44:07.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:44:12.280000+08:00","text":"放暑假學習的空窗期。","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:44:13.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:44:38.480000+08:00","text":"是，現在要跟次長請教，所謂的夏季失落，有很多是在比較偏鄉、原鄉，因為暑假期間沒有像都會區，就有城鄉差距，沒有什麼補習班或是才藝班可以來學習，所以在原鄉的孩子整個暑假感覺浪費掉了。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:44:38.880000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:45:21.866667+08:00","text":"在這裡跟你分享東海大學在今年暑假帶了一個青年團，發起日出偏鄉教育營，五十幾位大學生頂著烈日跑到南投信義鄉的羅娜部落跟羅娜國小，他們不只教小朋友生成式AI應用、媒體識讀、走入部落教長輩怎麼樣防範詐騙，甚至結合了大學歷史系的專業訓練進行口述歷史跟田野調查，把服務升格為長期學術的實踐。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:45:22.417143+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:45:39.615000+08:00","text":"你們認不認同他們這樣的核心理念，終結了煙火式的服務，能夠建構點、線、面來做永續的生態，讓大學的責任能夠在偏鄉來落實。","quality":0.942},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-08-19T10:45:41.160000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:46:02.047273+08:00","text":"對，謝謝委員關心，教育部其實多年來也有推動夏日樂學計畫，大概會有4、5萬的學生到偏鄉、到比較偏遠地區去做服務，有相當的量能，像東海大學也是其中之一，他們能有這樣下鄉服務的行動都非常非常好。","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:46:03.818182+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:46:30.685714+08:00","text":"對，我們覺得需要鼓勵更多的大學生能夠到原鄉、到偏鄉來做服務，除了服務原鄉這些小孩子或是老人，本身也是一種學習、一種服務、一種公益，我們希望教育部在這個部分能夠多給一些資源，讓這些大學生有機會來做這樣的學習。","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-08-19T10:46:30.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:46:43.266667+08:00","text":"更正一下，我們夏日樂學計畫會再擴大，現在大概已經有4萬到5萬的學生參與，委員那麼關心，我們將來會跟地方政府合作，儘量來開辦。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:46:44.030000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:46:49.585000+08:00","text":"如果有一些大學做得特別好的話，也應該要給予肯定跟鼓勵。","quality":0.84},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-08-19T10:46:49.800000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:46:55.965714+08:00","text":"大學的部分我們都會鼓勵，而且如果做得好的話，將來他申請的經費我們會增加給予。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:46:56.160000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:47:20.242500+08:00","text":"好，今天教育部跟原民會都在，本席要求教育部在兩個月內，針對大專院校深根原鄉生成式AI教育跟USR的長期方案提出一個具體的研議報告，科技發展不能遺漏任何一個偏鄉、原鄉的孩子，好嗎？以上。","quality":0.881},{"speaker":"張廖次長萬堅","start":"2026-08-19T10:47:20.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:47:24.248000+08:00","text":"好，我們會後再把這個資料……兩個月嘛？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:47:24.520000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:47:25.160000+08:00","text":"對，兩個月。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-08-19T10:47:25.480000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T10:47:32+08:00","text":"我們希望能夠鼓勵大學USR這樣的精神。以上。","quality":1},{"speaker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